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In their conversation Sunday night at a private Netflix event honoring “Springsteen on Broadway,” Bruce Springsteen and Martin Scorsese spent close to a third of the 45-minute chat discussing their mutual roots in east coast Catholicism and how they’ve both come to terms with a kind of faith. “I think as you get older, what you grow comfortable with is that faith is faith,” Springsteen said. “It’s about all of the mysteries and the answers that you’re never gonna come up with. And I think trying to build it around these concrete answers is vain and humanistic. But if you let it be, that’s where you find a little bit of peace in it. That’s what I’ve found, anyway.” ....
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They bonded over their shared love for Catholic literary great Flannery O’Connor, with Springsteen saying that his 1982 album “Nebraska” “was very influenced by Flannery O’Connor stories, and her stories were always filled with the unknowability of God.” Scorsese seemed surprised that Springsteen had not read her collected letters, and urged Springsteen, “Oh, just a few pages a night, every few nights. … I have a quote here from [a letter]… She said, ‘You arrive at enough certainty to be able to make your way, but it is making it in darkness. Don’t expect faith to clear things up for you. It’s trust, not certainty.’”
“If you’re an artist,” responded Springsteen, “that darkness is always more interesting than the light. It’s nice when you let the light in at the end of something. But I was always interested in, what were the things that didn’t go right? I had a habit: I would drive back through my hometown, and I would do this over and over and over again. And I used to ask myself, why am I coming back here? And I still do. Seventy years old, I still do it. I don’t know if you’re going back to fix things, but there’s so much there that informed your work and your life that it still remains just a rich location. But I always wanted to base the heart of my work in the dark side of things and then find my way. Then you had to earn the light.”
(I looked up the Nebraska reference - He lifts a line from O'Connor's story "A Good Man is Hard to Find" in the song, which is about a mass murderer. You can read "A Good Man' here: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~drbr/goodman.html)
Interesting that they call out "east coast Catholicism." It would be intriguing to see a study illuminating the differences, which I intuit but don't have time to tease out right now. We have had a busy few weeks. I've been grading papers (Oh but I am an easy grader!), trying to write a paper for a presentation (Oh, but I can't get this thing written!), and reviewing my daughter's college application essays (Oh, I would like to be done with this - what I realize after working with my fourth child in this predicament is that they don't really know how to articulate why they want to go to college nor what they want out of a college education, They don't give it any thought until this point in their lives. This is perhaps primarily a failure on my part and largely a fault of their school that doesn't encourage this kind of thinking, but also a maturity issue. We should be talking about the meaning and purpose of education all along - and I know I've said a thing or two to try to motivate them to do their homework or appreciate their teachers - or deal with mediocre teachers - but it doesn't really stick until they are actually in the process of trying to discern "what next?" So it is a painful process of having to think hard for a few days.
https://variety.com/2019/music/news/bruce-springsteen-martin-scorsese-talk-netflix-1203206046/

