It’s not only a new year but a new era.
We’ve survived a quarter of a century into the first century of the third millennia of the Common Era. This is approximately the two-thousandth anniversary of Jesus’ crucifixion and resurrection that supposedly brought salvation to all of humanity. Praise be! More prosaically, it’s Donald Trump’s second (and final?) term and the fascist takeover or techno-feudalist butterfly revolution is well on its way, whatever that portends.
Certainly, all the MAGA evangelicals and other fundies are worked up about the End Times, the Rapture, the Tribulation, the Second Coming, and, of course, the Anti-Christ. It doesn’t occur to them that the demiurgic Anti-Christ — The Beast, Man of Sin, Son of Perdition, Lawless One, The Adversary, The Wicked One — might already be here and in power of the largest empire on earth, as the present president of the United States or rather the god-emperor of the American Empire.
Then there are other visions.
If misunderstanding the Star Trek philosophy and worldview, tech oligarchs like Elon Musk who claim admiration for Star Trek seem to be pushing us into the Star Trek timeline of a future history that is rapidly becoming the future present and tumbling into future past (Star Trek Over Time & Snow Crash vs Star Trek). This is the year, by the way, when World War III is narratized as beginning with it’s predicted culmination being in 2053. It’s supposed to involve nuclear apocalypse, ecological destruction, and a final death toll at 600 million.
One worries that these deranged and Machiavellian tech overlords, with the full support of their fundy authoritarian followers, are pushing events in that direction on purpose as part of a self-fulfilling prophecy. They are doom-mongering accelerationists, after all.
Various other thinkers — Neil Howe (The Fourth Turning Is Here), Peter Turchin (End Times), Walter Scheidel (The Great Leveler), etc — have their own theories of what’s happening, what’s causing it, and what’s to come. In any case, the dire state of omni-crisis we find ourselves in is undeniable. It does get one thinking and puts one’s life in perspective.
Almost anyone alive right now is likely wondering about how the present might relate to the future, about where ongoing events are leading us, assuming there will be a future for humanity at all. As it’s been put, the light up ahead is either the end of the tunnel or an oncoming freight train. One way or another, we’ll soon find out.
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That leaves us ordinary folk in a quagmire.
Most of us are just trying to get by. We don’t have the capacity to affect major events. But we are forced to face them, no matter what we think about it all. Up to this point, it seems the average person was hoping to make it to the end of their life before the shit hit the fan — probably no such luck, unless you plan on dying immediately.
We’ve all sensed bad things coming and most would rather not think about it, just pass the buck down to the next generation. Now it seems the buck stops here. We the living are that last generations in the cycle (death spiral?). We are forced to suffer the consequences and, if we can, to clean up the mess made by those before us (pull up from the impending crash at the last moment?).
So, what does one hope to achieve in a world that is threatening catastrophe, chaos, and collapse? What is the point of doing anything at all? What kind of future, individual and collective, do we dare to hope for?
Or for some people, “What, me worry?”
For all my pontificating, I’m often in that latter camp. I spent decades in crippling depression. I’ve been waiting for the end of the world my whole life, having grown up on post-apocalyptic movies. In elementary school, back in the late 1980s, my class was given an assignment to write a story. My choice was to describe a post-apocalyptic earth where a few survivors wandered the ruins. The narrative was internalized.
It was plausible and realistic at the time, with the Cold War posing threats of doom. But so far, that outcome has not come to pass. Nor have I had to deal with quicksand, as was a scenario in nearly every television show of my childhood. So much for fiction predicting reality. But then again, there is still plenty of time for predictions to be proven prescient.
It’s just all the fear-mongering at some point becomes numbing, a defense mechanism of hazy PTSD. At this point, maybe I just have fewer shits left to give.
Even with possible apocalypse once again at our doorstep, such as a third world war, my psychological response is often: Meh. Whatever will be will be. But I’m not so detached as to not care about life, my own and that of others. It’s just my concerns have been narrowed down, as the larger world is just a bit too much at the moment. The anxieties of life, even when overwhelming, can become dulled down after awhile. It’s like working in a noisy factory that causes hearing loss.
Yet it’s not that I don’t plenty obsess over the fate of humanity, if my preferred frame tends to go in other directions, such as what the social sciences tell us about the meaning of humanity. Concerning myself about whether Trump or some other idiot decides to launch nuclear missiles, whether climate change brings on a new ice age, or whatever else — it’s a fruitless activity. I want to keep my focus on what matters most, specifically in terms of what’s in my power to influence.
The immediate world is bad enough as it is. And each of us has our personal challenges that will keep us preoccupied for the rest of our lives.
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I don’t normally do New Year’s resolutions.
It’s not because I never resolve to do or not do something, philosophical debates of free will aside (Robert Sapolsky, Determined). Nor is it that I fear I won’t be able to commit to and maintain my resolutions. I’m typically fine with making changes and sticking to them when such seems needed and desirable, attainable and worthwhile.
My unconcern, though, is just that the New Year is an arbitrary time. There is nothing about an artificial point on a calendar that inspires me to reassess my entire life and aspire to change things, to do better.
But as often happens, a friend asked if I had a New Year’s resolution. I did not and said so.
Nonetheless, there have been niggling thoughts on my mind about the state of my life and of society. It’s not like there aren’t endless opportunities for improvement all around.
And as my birthday is at the end of the year, it’s hard to ignore the fact that I’ve now reached 50 years old, the half century mark; with the two halves of my life split between two separate centuries, two separate millennia. So, I do have to decide how to spend the rest of my life, although that’s always the case. For hunter-gatherers, the average individual hits their physical peak in their fifties. But for modern Westerners, most are already showing major decline by that point, or often much earlier — healthspan being a different issue than lifespan.
Admittedly, if far better off than typical, I am feeling my age. And I can’t deny that my choices, actions, and behaviors affect not only my physical health but, as important, my mental health.
With that in mind, maybe I do have a New Year’s resolutions of sorts, if something I’ve already been long struggling with. As has caused much public concern and debate, there is the effect had by the new media and its corresponding technology, specifically with a tech oligarchy having taken over the United States that has aspirations of globalizing techno-feudalism, maybe akin to the dystopian future of Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash.
It gives one pause.
If I can’t stop this weird breed of authoritarian accelerationism that hopes to bring on an End Times to give birth to the Second Coming of a strange AI dark lord (with Jesus replaced with a Sauron-like figure), I can at the very least make decisions and commitments about how to relate to it all. So, I resolve to be more aware, intentional, and discerning in my media usage.
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I’ve long realized this is important and I’ve acted on that realization. So, it’s not exactly a resolution to start something entirely new. Just to bring an old concern to the forefront and to recommit to this change.
For the past decade or so, I’ve steadily broadened my curtailment of social media, along with having boycotted tech behemoths like Amazon. I’ve also unsubscribed from the streaming service companies that bowed down to MAGA fascism by paying bribes or tributes to Trump. At the very least, I don’t have to give these evil corporations my money, time, and attention.
Yet the allure of the online world, especially YouTube (a weakness of mine), keeps drawing me back in. I need to go the route of Alcoholics Anonymous — once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. These media platforms are designed to be addictive and manipulative. I need to go cold turkey. As one drink leads to another for the alcoholic, the same is true with one click on a video or whatnot.
I need to double or triple down on my resolve.
I had to learn that with my decades of sugar addiction, having developed it in childhood. I have enough self-control to not take that first bite of candy, potato chips, or whatever other kind of junk food. But once that first bite is taken, once the taste is in my mouth and the sugar is flowing through my veins with my serotonin spiking, I very well might not have enough strength within me to resist the second bite and the third, fourth, etc. Then a binge will likely follow, possibly along with regret and misery, shame and self-blame.
But the thing is that it’s not a matter of being personally weak. And so we have to be more intelligent and wise by understanding where resolve matters and how it can work, as opposed to when it’s a counterproductive, unnecessary, and futile struggle. That is to say one needs to locate points of leverage, rather than bashing one’s head into a wall.
As with tech media, ultra-processed ‘food’ products (UPFs) are carefully designed by corporate-hired scientific researchers to be extremely addictive, such as being more intensely tasty than any natural food with that sought-after mouthfeel and the triggering of the reward system (Robert Lustig, The Hacking of the American Mind). This stuff isn’t ‘food’ in the normal sense. It’s closer to a drug.
Your biology, your brain is no match against the trillions of dollars plutocrats have invested in the knowledge of how to pull your strings like a puppet.
It’s good to be a bit paranoid in such a scenario, when in enemy territory. They really are out to get you, to use and abuse you, to suck you dry. You can’t directly fight against that. It’s more about awareness, knowledge, and insight than self-control. Just don’t put yourself into situations where you know the table is tilted in their favor, where the game is rigged against you. In recognizing you’re outmatched and disadvantaged, don’t meet them on the battlefield of their choice. Know that the house always wins.
Don’t take that first bite. Reclaim authority over your own life. Take control of that initial decision of where and how to engage. If you’re not in control, then it’s likely you’re being controlled by tools and systems of control. This is capital ‘C’ Control, as William S. Burroughs described it.
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That is where my own resolution comes in.
I find myself irritated and frustrated, emotionally jerked around whenever I’m on these corporate media platforms, at least the popular ones. They mostly or entirely disallow personal autonomy and control. The algorithms determine your feed as a ‘user’, the content you’re recommended, and the advertising you see. The bots monitor everything you do, determine what others can see of what you do (along with what you can of what others do), and control how you’re allowed to interact: filtering search results, disappearing comments, shadow banning, deplatforming, etc.
It generally operates in the background and so goes unseen, which makes it all the more nefarious and insidious. All that they allow is an illusion of free choice in a public-like space. But in reality, it’s all controlled and determined, shaped and influenced by big money and powerful interests; with endless propaganda of capitalist realism, American imperialism, Zionism, etc. And they do their best to trap you in an echo chamber, to keep you ignorant, disinformed, and clueless, or else irate and reactionary; to keep us all at odds with divide and conquer.
If you think you’re smarter than these forces of perception management and social control, then you are stupid and a fool. Intellectual humility is in order.
I’ve seen too many people fall prey. The tactics of manipulation are always several, if not dozens, of steps ahead of public media literacy. It could take generations for we the citizenry to catch up to where big tech is right now and so to catch on to how the game is played, although we are gaining insight. But public knowledge that is actionable will be too late for almost anyone alive right now.
[As a side note, this manipulation happens in many ways.
As shown by research based on cultivation theory, repeatedly viewing media portrayals of violence will elicit mean world syndrome, that is to say exaggerated threat perception and punitiveness, social conservatism and right-wing authoritarianism. This is true even for exposed liberals. One study found that, after watching continuous footage of the 9/11 attacks on tv, liberals later became more supportive of right-wing policies: Homeland Security, Iraq War, etc.
Similarly, I’ve known of leftists who explored reactionary alt-right literature out of curiosity. Then they begin to exhibit reactionary attitudes and express reactionary thought. These were highly intelligent and informed people who thought they were above the power of such rhetoric. They went into it knowing what it was and yet, as mind viruses, it still slipped past their intellectual defenses and infected them.
Choose your media consumption carefully as it might consume you. None of us is above being vulnerable. Always be on guard by developing intellectual self-defense (Normand Baillargeon, A Short Course in Intellectual Self Defense: Find Your Inner Chomsky).]
Furthermore, it’s also how these tech companies intentionally promote what elicits engagement, what incites and riles emotion, at any cost. That usually means the worst demons of our nature: fear, anxiety, alienation, anger, hatred, bigotry, scapegoating, and worse still like cruelty, vengeance, schadenfreude, and on and on. This is how we’re led down a dark path of doomscrolling, idiotic online pseudo-arguments, trollish antisocial behavior, and superficial ingroup bias of polarized partisanship, identity politics, victimhood Olympics, etc.
All of this is exacerbated by how electronic media elicits and antagonizes the destabilizing and deranging conditions of a post-literary culture. This is seen with both the tribalism of Marshall McLuhan’s global village and the agonism of Walter J. Ong’s secondary orality. The literary-based culture, as it’s operated for centuries, no longer fully applies (Jeff Jarvis, The Gutenberg Parenthesis).
And so the whole world is thrown up into the air, with an accompanying sense of weightlessness until we hit back down again. With no way to get our bearings, no chance to catch our breath, it makes everyone feel on edge, constantly agitated and exhausted, as we brace ourselves for the coming impact.
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One doesn’t need to intellectually understand all that, if the context helps. Nor does one have to sit around worrying about the larger implications and long-term consequences. But one should take seriously that one is up against forces that are outside of individual control. There is a vaster field of action far beyond you and, to those in power, you’re just another pawn to be sacrificed, a data point to be sold, a user profile to manipulate.
That is all the more reason to prioritize what we do control, while avoiding as much as possible what we don’t.
Personally, this means that I’m picking my media usage with great wariness and care, weighing the pros and cons with each option. I don’t want to become a luddite and hermit, hiding from the big bad world. As I’m a writer, I need or rather desire a platform on which to publish and hopefully to gain an audience. But I want to stay away from any platform that doesn’t allow me to control all major aspects of my experience.
That is why I got off Medium and returned to WordPress, even if the latter might be a dying platform. I’m going back to what I know, at least for the moment while I reassess my situation and determine my options.
WordPress, if nothing else, offers much direct control, in terms of what matters to me. I can set all my pieces or a single piece to no comments, moderated comments, or open commenting. Also, I can entirely block individuals from leaving comments at all. This allows me to proactively cultivate my audience and hence my experience. I don’t need to ever engage with trolls, the mentally disturbed, bad actors, or simply people who irritate me and offer nothing of value.
It’s a rare breath of fresh air, as compared to most elsewhere on the internet.
It reinforces the sense of my writing space as being my own personal space. I’m given the tools to determine for myself how I wish to engage with the online world. Fewer platforms do that anymore. Hence, I prefer the old school design of WordPress that, as far as I can tell, hasn’t yet fallen to enshittification (Corey Doctorow).
In addition, WordPress brings me straight to my own page, not the main WordPress page. Without any extra steps (e.g., signing out), I can see my page as others see it, which isn’t an easy option on Medium. When I go to Medium, I’m first confronted with recommendations, mostly of articles from people I don’t follow. Medium is telling me what they think I should read, not what I want to read. In that, it’s more similar to social media like Facebook, Twitter/X, and YouTube.
I want the freedom and demand the right to curate my own experience. And I’ll accept nothing less. I’m not going to lower my standards to turn myself into a mere product of big biz, as part of their scheme to control the internet and hence control the public mind. I’ll only deal with businesses that treat me with basic respect, that seem to hold true to the old vision and ethos of the internet as an equalizing force.
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But also I require dependability.
I’ve been on WordPress a little less than two decades. In all that time, they’ve never once jerked me around or caused me problems. WordPress simply works almost seamlessly. It’s simple and perfunctorial. It just works. Apparently, WordPress management and designers see it as their job to make my life easier and to incentivize my participation. Whereas some other major platforms act as if they’re doing us peons a favor by allowing us to produce free content for them to profit by.
That is because, specifically on social media, we the users are the product being sold. I have no interest in being a product placed on the mind-slave block. I’m the human here. Corporations should serve me, not the other way around. That is true of the system in general, from a leftist perspective of freedom and liberty. Humans should always be front and center.
That is what, after initial positive experience, finally sent me jumping the Medium ship. Out of the blue without any warning, they one day suspended my account. I no longer could publish articles or comment. I made a formal complaint and my account was quickly reinstated. But with opaque bureaucracy, they never gave me a verbal response, never explained, never apologized. I have no way of knowing what happened or why. And worse, I have no way of preventing it from happening to again.
The Medium staff acted like arbitrary gods from up high, an impersonal and faceless force that will-nilly determines your fate. They owe you nothing and make sure you realize you’re inferiority, your utter dependence on them. Make the wrong move and you’re done. There is no fellow human to appeal to, as could be done with a local brick-and-mortar business.
I had no desire to have that hanging over my head, to be in that kind of non-relationship of power disparity. So, I left Medium and don’t regret it. I demand to be treated with basic human decency. That’s non-negotiable.
Now I’m back on WordPress. But as I explained, it’s not about just this one issue. I’m in the process of curating my entire online experience. I’ve decided to be more careful of where and how I spend my time, to guard jealously my personal autonomy in this attention economy, ruthless and manipulative as it is.
On a simpler note, it’s partly just no longer wanting to waste my time. And as anyone knows these days, that’s easy to do. One post, tweet, video, link, etc leads to another, often as part of an endless feed that mindlessly leads one along. Before you know it, hours of your life may have disappeared and you hardly remember what you did.
It’s demoralizing. Just whittering away your precious moments of life.
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Even when not mere pointless and mind-numbing distraction, something like a long intellectual discussion on a YouTube video can, nonetheless, feel like empty calories. During that same time, I could’ve been reading a book or finishing one of my thousands of drafts.
It’s not only the quality of the content but the quality of the engagement. It’s what it’s doing to me. A video is passive and so it instills in one a sense of passivity, of just letting life slip by. With endless opportunities of preoccupation, there never needs to be a moment for boredom, contemplation, people-watching, or whatever. The online world can absorb one’s entire awareness and there will never be an end to the content on display.
We need moments of downtime when nothing is happening, when the mind wanders and daydreams.
That is what turns on the default mode network. It’s in this state that the mind can process and gain perspective. It’s why there are so many anecdotes of scientists, inventors, and such coming to some great insight while going for a walk or taking a bath. Research has found something as simply 15 minutes of doing nothing causes people to come up with more creative solutions.
That’s the thing. As a GenXer, I remember the world before the internet. I know what it feels like to be motivated into creativity because I had nothing better to do — for example, sitting in front of a blank piece of paper waiting for inspiration or just writing down whatever came to mind. I haven’t done that kind of writing in a long time, truly emergent creativity.
And it will never happen as long as I let the tech lords own and possess my mind.
I can come to the end of a video that may have had some value and yet still wonder why I watched it. It’s the unfocused nature of simply clicking on something that captures my attention but without any conscious intention on my part. One loses the sense of making a choice. Indeed, the algorithm has us all figured out. Even for us intellectuals, it knows how to grab hold of us, and then it can be so hard to pull back out. The claws pierce deep into our psyches.
Besides the severe alienation of it all, the demoralization and depersonalization, mediated reality can swamp an individual in so many ways. It’s a race to the bottom where the the lowest common denominator rules. It will drag you down with it and keep you mired.
The more time I spend online the more I realize that the best people likely spend the least amount of time online. Those actually accomplishing something meaningful and worthy, generally speaking, aren’t to be found on social media and in comments sections. That creates the sorry state where those who have the least maturity, depth, intelligence, understanding, knowledge, insight, creativity, humility, compassion, and moral concern are those with the greatest presence and the loudest voices. It’s mostly, if not entirely, the dregs of society with the time to dedicate their entire lives to non-stop opinionating, sparring, trolling, and shitposting online.
This includes troll farms and mercenary paid trolls. Not to mention the growing tide of bots and AI content; a significant portion of it being pushed as part of propaganda campaigns serving diverse nefarious interests. It’s a fucking nightmare. We are entering what many describe according to the dead internet theory.
Actual humans interacting normally with other humans is becoming a thing of the past. Our very humanity is disappearing into the morass.
One comes across entire comments sections that very likely were produced entirely by non-human entities spamming and spewing out advertisements, talking points, or whatever other bullshit. Data analysis has already found that, in some countries, most of the internet activity is no longer human. I’ve seen arguments in threads where I suspect both sides were bots, or else people have become so influenced by bot talk that they’re starting to sound like them — the latter would be a truly dark turn.
To make matters worse, with deepfakes, it will get harder and harder to determine what is real and factual. We’re being buried alive in a post-truth world.
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It can make one feel defeated, as if the only option is to give up and retreat. But I don’t want to.
There is little point to writing without an audience. And, for good or ill, it’s hard for the average or even above average writer to find an audience these days while abstaining from online platforms. Sadly, it’s nearly impossible for most people to maintain their own websites, as everything has gotten too complex. And opportunities of publishing in physical venues are declining, as local newspapers and magazines close down.
There is another complaint I have about the internet in general and most writing platforms in particular. I developed my love of writing long before I got my own internet connection in 1998. The internet, though, has changed the equation and can cause me to forget why I came to enjoy writing so much in the first place. If it’s hard to imagine now, I used to write all the time without any audience in mind, as I had no audience other than close friends. There was a freedom in it, as one didn’t feel a compulsion to constantly tailor oneself according to the responses, demands, suggestions, and complaints of others; much less conform to algorithmic machinations that determine if you’re seen or buried.
That relates to another problem with Medium.
To get any major exposure, a writer had to get pieces accepted by a ‘publication’, each with its own focus, requirements, and style; all of which has been shaped by internet weirdness. I found that I had a talent for writing great pieces that could get published and sometimes drew in large audiences. Decades of experience have honed my skills in knowing how to shape an appealing piece, and the constraints in some ways brought out the best in me. I further learned what works in the online world, how to break up texts with subheadings, quotes, pull quotes, images, videos, and links.
To the credit of Medium, they do have an impressive platform in many ways that is user friendly. I don’t regret my time spent there. But in the end, I want to write on my own terms. That is what WordPress has allowed me. Last decade, I was averaging 80,000 clicks per year on WordPress with no need for any ‘publication’ to promote my work. I did my own thing in my own way and gained a large following.
I don’t know, however, if that’s possible now.
I’ve been inactive on WordPress for a while and so have lost most of my active followers. Plus, though WordPress used to be a heavy-hitter that was prominent, I have a suspicion that Google and other search engines now push WordPress articles further down in results. It has the stigma of being an old ‘blogging’ platform and that is no longer fashionable, if technically there isn’t any fundamental difference between it and the newer writing platforms.
I’m not sure what I want to do or how I should go about doing it. Many writers left Medium for Substack. All the cool kids, public intellectuals, and celebrities are on Substack now, at least until another new and popular platform comes along. I just have no interest in platform jumping with the eternal hope of catching some wave. Rather, I simply want to plunk down somewhere and have a solid, if not necessarily massive, following of interested readers — more emphasis on quality than quantity. Better yet, I’d like to be part of a community of writers, as I did find on Medium to its credit.
For the moment, I’m holing up here on WordPress and licking my wounds. Maybe I’ll eventually venture out to some other platforms. Even in that case, I think I’m going to keep WordPress as my home base, for as long as possible.
As such, here I am and here I will remain.
But how do I make the best of a bad situation? I want to be more proactive, selective, and discerning in how I spend my time. I want to get back to focusing on my own aspirations, in particular my vocation as a writer. I want to get shit done. And in what I do, I want it to matter. I write because I care about the world, about humanity. That is what I need to keep front and center, the whole reason that helps me remain motivated and inspired, curious and interested.
I’m an intellectual in a media environment where intellectuality is being downgraded in value. All I’m trying to do is find my niche, a place where I belong and possibly even can be respected. I have something unique and worthy to offer. That is what I need to stay focused on. All I can do is what I know how to do and do it to the best of my ability.
That is my New Year’s resolution. Or just call it a resolution. It’s my recommitting myself to what I’m already committed to but with renewed focus and intention.
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Resolution aside, much of last year was spent pondering how media affects me. To that end, I’ve been studying the history of media and research of its impact on mentality, behavior, and culture. This was the topic of one of my recent writings: The End of the Age of the Masses.
It’s with all of that on my mind that I felt like writing this piece. I do have many further thoughts on the matter. So, it’s probably safe to suggest more such pieces will be on the way. But for now, I’ll end it here with a book recommendation list:
Public Opinion
by Walter Lippman
The Image
by Daniel J. Boorstin
The Gutenberg Galaxy
by Marshall McLuhan
The Sensus Communis, Synesthesia, and the Soul
by Eric McLuhan
Amusing Ourselves to Death
by Neil Postman
The Shallows
by Nicholas Car
Stolen Focus
by Johann Hari
The Gutenberg Parenthesis
by Jeff Jarvis
The Science of Reading
by Adrian Johns
The Alphabet Versus the Goddess
by Leonard Shlain
The Spell of the Sensuous
by David Abram
Nicole said
did you also read John’s answer near the end of the thread? I thought that he had really got it, as you describe – that really if everything we knew was wrong, we would literally be nowhere.
But I’m more interested in your dilemma. I agree that fiction is probably the better way for you to approach explorations of what is beyond ideas and questions. I’m wondering what some of the fictional approaches you have at the moment in mind might be.
Marmalade said
I did like some of the answers in that thread.
John’s answer was pointing out the philosophical difficulties of dualistic language, but all language is dualistic. I was looking past such problems of language which are mostly surface problems. I don’t agree with simple dualistic value judgments either.
However, I was looking past this surface level to the deeper implications of the scenario and the experience that such a scenario would incur. The term ‘wrong’ may not be the best term, but its adequate for conveying a certain kind of experience. As I mentioned, I have had experiences where everything I knew felt ‘wrong’ and not in a dualistic sense but rather in an absolute sense.
I’ve been slowly reading A Scanner Darkly in bits and pieces. I just came across a favorite section which is also conveyed well in the movie. Its showing the degeneration of his mind really kicking in. In a single scene, he switches between several cognitive perspectives talking about himself the whole time as if he were someone else. PKD does it so smoothly which is extremely impressive.
I can feel confused at times, but this goes to a whole other level. PKD shows from the inside what it might feel like as your psyche disitegrated. At the same time, the tone becomes evermore philosophical as the charcter not only tries to figure out what is going on but also what it means.
Subjective experience is difficult to convey in all its complexity. Most writers stick to more normal characters because the challenge of writing well is already difficult enough. I want to read more good examples of the type of writing that PKD does in certain of his books. I’m thinking over the many novels and stories I’ve read over the years, but offhand its hard for me to remember which authors might’ve done this well. I would definitely point out Kafka for he is good at deeply conveying a subjective mood. I like Hesse’s writings, but I’m not sure that he exactly fits into what I’m thinking about here.
I’ve been very specifically thinking of fiction this past month. I even have a story I want to write. My motivation for the story is to convey this feeling I’ve been having lately and so the whole story hinges on how well I could convey it. I don’t know that I could convey it, but I’m willing to try. An aspect of the story is also about the sense of connection that one can feel with others at times and the utter disconnection at other times. The disconnection part fits in with the difficulties of communication.
The story I’m thinking of has a different type of narrative than a typical PKD story. I’m thinking of a very short story that happens in a single location with very little action. The story will be as much about the past as its about the present which is another challenge.
We’ll see what I come up with. I’ll keep you apprised.
Marmalade said
There are 3 elements to storytelling that I’m considering:
– Conveying multiple perspectives within a single character and smoothly transitioning between those perspectives.
– Creating an atmosphere, a mood, a subjective sense of reality that permeates all aspects of a story.
– Using imagery and themes that are potent and subtle, that bridge between ephemeral inner experiences and concrete outer descriptions.
Nicole said
you’re getting me lathered up in a fervour of anticipation! really, i can hardly wait to see what you come up with, Ben. It sounds absolutely fascinating.
1Vector3 said
Boy do I ever resonate with the experiences and challenges. Plus, as spiritual discussions try to get ever more precise about what is “experienced” even the word “experience” drops out of the running, and we are left with elusive stuff like “the suchness of Beingness” or “the ground of Beingness” or “Being.” Blech.
I was in a spiritually-oriented discussion group last night, and oddly enough was talking about one of your points: I have written and blogged about many of my inner illuminations and experiences and insights and transformations but the most profound ones – and even many of the less profound ones! – I have felt a disinclination to even TRY to write about.
So I am very frustrated, in a way, as a teacher-via-writing because the stuff I write is not the really IMPORTANT stuff, which part of me thinks I not only COULD write about but MUST be writing about, yet I cannot bring myself to do it. That’s all related to letting go of lots of my “Should’s” but it also means I end up feeling as if I am simply presenting surface stuff, misleading folks into thinking that’s all that’s going on, or the most important stuff going on. So I am breaking my identity of Rescuer, but not without the good fight, haha.
I once made a stab at trying to describe what it’s like to break through the sound barrier of “knowing” and live at the speed of “the living Truth” but it didn’t seem a particularly effective stab.
I don’t have the ability to write fiction, but I do have some poetry skills, but they don’t seem to have aligned yet with any of the kinds of purposes-of-writing we are talking about here. Perhaps they will.
In face to face life – and actually even via print and computer words – there are ways to transcend worded communication/influence. Sometimes I just give up on words, even though most of the time I live in them, as my personal arena of Divine Expression.
It was sooooooo wonderful to read your thoughts, so wonderfully expressed. Thank you for sharing, and for being in my world, kindred spirit.
Blessings, OM Bastet
Marmalade said
Hey OM!
Writing is difficult no doubt. I gave up on words for a period of time some years ago. I stopped reading and writing not for ideological reasons but because language just didn’t fit my experience at that time. This is impressive considering how much of my life has revolved around words. Of course, my love of (or addiction to) language won out.
I don’t see language as the enemy as some spiritual people do. Like you, I usually see it as my personal arena of Divine Expression or something like that. I’d like to find a different way of using language. Fiction is what I know and so I plan on focusing on that, but poetry definitely works for many people.
I’ve decided to focus more on my own writing and less time on pods. I think I’ll only keep the God Pod and Community Film Picks on notification. I did finish a very rough draft of the story I’ve been thinking of, but it will probably be a while before I’m satisfied enough with it to share it. I plan on trying multiple different ways of telling the story before even getting much into the editing process.
Nicole said
that sounds like an excellent plan. The more I try to keep pods under control the more they proliferate – I’m back up to 31 Lol fortunately not all of them active. Time to trim some of the inactive ones again!
starlight said
Ben, have you just tried to do some honest journaling…not really anything specific to begin with…just honest feelings about experiencing? this helps, and it also helps to always write what you know…so, if you ‘don’t know’, write about the ways you know you don’t know…this will open up areas that are blocked in your psyche…also, you mentioned feeling connected…then feeling disconnected…write about these experiences honestly…putting these honest feelings down on paper, then looking at them, opens up other areas of awareness…
will look forward to reading you…when we can honestly speak from our hearts…the experience resonates…and touches all that are listening with their heart…
much love and joy…star…
Marmalade said
Yeah, for years I used to do lots of that kind of honest journalling. I still do it some, but not as much as I used to because it ultimately felt unsatisfying. It was useful for a period of my life.
Part of my frustration lately is not just that I ‘don’t know’, but also that I ‘don’t know’ what to do with what I ‘do know’. Specifically, my present frustration relates to being on Gaia because my frustrations are amplified. There are three overlapping types on Gaia. There are the rationalists which are mostly represented by the integralists here. There are the spiritual believers who are heavily weighted towards the new age. And there are the activists who are extremely politically-oriented specifically liberal and progressive. I find these three types interesting, but I don’t really fit into any of them.
All three of these types (and this entire community) is dominated by optimists. I’m not an optimist… far from it. I have certain ideals that occasionally inspire me, but I’m not that idealistic. If anything, my view of life is tragic.
So, in many ways I ‘don’t know’ about my own experience. More importantly, I feel most people ‘don’t know’ my experience. I realize this is a common experience of feeling not understood, but I think this feeling is more accurate for some people than for others. In our society, statistics show that pessimists are an extreme minority. This probably has always been true because optimism has more of an evolutionary advantage. My pessimism is out of sync with society (especially in the US) and maybe with the human race in general. Furthermore, Gaia has an even higher concentration of optimists than probably anywhere else on the web.
The obvious question… so why am I here? I don’t know. I was raised with the New Age and I’m apparently drawn to it like a moth to a flame. How tragic. 🙂
When you read my writing on gaia, you are reading a highly censored version of me. I partly don’t speak about certain experiences because I don’t fully understand them, but I also don’t speak about certain experiences because I doubt most others here would fully understand them. So, what is the point?! No one on Gaia has ever seen my darker side and probably no one here cares to see it. And I don’t care to hear all the optimism I’d get in response to it.
The reason I’m here is similar to an explanation of the universe that I find humorous. Some people claim that this universe is the best of all possible worlds. Now that is a depressing thought. This is the best God could do? Anyways, it seems ironically funny to me because its usually stated as a way of countering pessimism. My point being is I’m on Gaia because its the best of all possible blogging communities which can simultaneously be seen as praise for Gaia and criticism of blogging communities in general.
I’m a dissatisfied person and that is the way it is. The problem isn’t anything in particular. The problem is everything. Our inability to understand and to communicate. Our inability to do anything actually significant about all of the suffering in the world. Our inability to see outside of our limited perspectives. I don’t think we can honestly speak from our hearts or at least I have yet to either personally experience it or observe it in others. The only ‘honest’ experiences of the heart I’ve had brought on silence and a sense of existential ignorance… which isn’t a bad thing… in fact, I suspect the world might be a better (or more intereting) place if more people had such humbling experiences.
The difficulty I have with a place like Gaia is that too many people here have agendas and are too certain about their agendas. This isn’t a bad thing per se. The purpose of Zaadz was to be a place for people who want to change the world. But I don’t want to change the world and I don’t resonate with people who do. Its not a judgment of them. I’m glad some people feel compelled towards change… whatever inspires you or whatever is your nature. My attitude is just different because my experience is different. My attitude is how to let the world deeply and profoundly change me. One of my highest ideals is to let go of all ideals, but that is of course an impossible ideal. lol
starlight said
Ben…again, i encourage you in honesty…how do you know that other’s will not resonate with your experiences of the darker side until you put it out there? and, relatively speaking…is that not in and of itself your purpose for being here? i write about horrible experiences that i have had in reality…smoking crack…prostitution…sexual abuse…and yet, i also write about the real inner peace and joy that i experience…
imho, and b/c of my real life experiencing of my own dark nights of my soul…i was not able to get past them until i saw them for what they were…and got honest with me about it…seems like, you are doing that, but your frustration just might be, your lack of expression…iow, your creative ability to express in words what you have experienced or are experiencing now…and the way to solve that is just to do it…write what you feel…be honest…to hell with the optimist…fuck em…lol…like Adam said…
FEEL TO HEAL AND KEEP IT REAL…
how do you know that other’s don’t ‘feel’ the same ways? by speaking your truths no matter how dark they may be, you release that frustration, and you give other’s the right to be who and what they are…and feel what they feel…
these are just suggestions, but b/c i deal with the ‘dark side’ of life every day…i no longer deny this in myself, in other’s, or in the world at large…
much love and joy…and if you don’t want me to say that…tell me to ‘fuck off!’ LOL…
Marmalade said
I hear ya. I’m sure some would resonate with experiences I could communicate. I’m not saying I won’t try to write about these more difficult issues. I’m not sure what my purpose is for being here other than writing. I do want to try to express something of my viewpoint as far as I feel capable.
My frustrations go beyond difficulties of communication. I’m just frustrated, but I don’t see my frustration as something to be solved. I feel the world is inherently dissatisfying. For me, frustration is the seed of my spiritual experiences. Suffering and longing go hand in hand. I can put this into personal terms, but I don’t have the time at the moment. I’ve spoken about my depression in various places on Gaia. This might sound strange to some people but part of me doesn’t want my depression to go away. I don’t want to forget the world’s suffering. I don’t want to distract myself not even by ideals of love and compassion. I don’t know what this means, but I do know that suffering is the most real experience I know of.
All of this means little. Either you’ve had experiences similar to mine and agree with my perspective, or you’ve had different experiences and thus have different perspectives. Another thing is that I don’t have the belief that you seem to have that expressing something will change it. I have no expectations that my frustration will ever be released or rather not until I’m released from this mortal coil.
I don’t know what the point of any of it is. I’m just a writer. Its what I do and so here I am.
One last thing about this frustration is that I feel immense shame. I’m far from being successful by most standards of society. My only level of success is that I hold down a job, pay the bills, and haven’t killed myself. I pretty much live my life day by day. I have no excuses for myself or my life. I’ve had more opportunities than most people ever have. Most people would see my failure as being completely personal. My parents worked themselves through college and into professional careers. Both of them started off fairly poor and are now upper middleclass. I, on the other hand, have slowly worked myself back down to working class. My parents are accomplished and have intense work ethics. I can’t even get the motivation to do the dishes.
I live my life in fear. I’m afraid of everything. Life will only get worse. My depression will only increase with age. Pain and suffering will only increase with age. Loneliness will only become more intense as people I know and love die over the years. To be completely honest, I’ll be ‘lucky’ if I don’t either end up killing myself, becoming institutionalized or else homeless. That is my darker side.
I’m not seeking pity. And I’m definitely not looking for good advice or optimistic outlooks. I very well may say ‘fuck off!’ to anyone who does offer any of this.
starlight said
LOL…there ya go! rotf…least you made me laugh…which is something i love to do…
i spent my life trying to kill myself with drugs and alcohol….today i am thankful for another way to live and enjoy my life…i am really a very simple person…and i don’t have a belief system anymore, cause i had an experience where all my conceptual beliefs, including the religious ones crumbled…i cannot think conceptually now…i don’t know why i am here…fuck it…don’t care…just going to try and enjoy my life as much as possible…cause that is what i want to do…lol…if you like your depression…happy depressing…lol…i don’t see much point to all the suffering…but i, like you, am not willing to look the other way concerning it, or pretend that it does not really exist…even if it is just temporary…but, unlike you…i fucking love my life now…i love nature…i love to write…i love to feel joy…i love to cry…i love music…i love to sing…my songs…i love to play guitar…my keyboard…congas…i love to dance…in the rain…play with kids…i love…rainbows…sunsets…stars…i love to fuck…and i love to say the word fuck…i love food…i love the internet…i love movies…books…i love to learn…and sometimes i love just being lazy…well, i love that a lot…mostly…i just stay honest and real with me…cause that makes me happy…
anyways…this has been a very enlightening discussion…for me anyways…always, *
Marmalade said
Your attitude is fine by me.
My theory is that I am what I am and I experience what I experience… and as far as I can tell this theory applies to everyone. I’m happy when I’m happy and I enjoy life when I enjoy it. Conversely, I’m depressed when I’m depressed and I gladly curse God almighty when I’m in a bad mood.
For happy people, I say more power to them. Overall, I’m not a happy person myself. But who wouldn’t choose to be a happy person if such things were actually choices. I’ve tried to be one of those happy people. It just didn’t work out. We all have our fates. Some people just have easier fates than others. I can hear people responding with the opinion that nothing is fated, and all I can say is that such a person believes this way because
their nature and life experience has led them to do so.
Freewill is a sacred cow for optimists, but it doesn’t mean much to me. I’ve spent much of my life trying to choose something other than this life I have. Nevertheless, here I am as I am. I’ve tried to just love life and enjoy the simple things. I have found some basic sense of contentment, but depression always returns and my periods of depression last way longer than my brief moments of carefree happiness.
I suspect that everyone tries and enjoy their lives as much as possible, but what is possible is not the same for everyone. That reminds me of what my Grandmother used to say: “Everyone is doing the best for where they’re at.” Not much more can be said than that.
1Vector3 said
Your position is coming through loud and clear, Ben, and I believe I’m hearing it. As someone who values you, I had to at first be sure that, re your depression, you had covered all the possible avenues of change that I am aware of, and since you seem to have done that, it does appear that “not much more can be said.” Until and unless something changes……
I don’t identify with any of the three groups here you mentioned. Do you consider me a New Ager and optimist? Both labels would be just about the opposite of the truth of me !!!! I am a heretic on at least 40 points wrt New Age, and as a perfectionist down to my cells and in every second of my consciousness, I am a card-carrying pessimist, always focusing first and foremost and at length on what is wrong and what could go wrong. For example I have had a long hard struggle for decades to even begin to entertain the notion that “Things could turn out the best way I could imagine, not the worst way.” Give me anything and I will tell you all the downsides of it, past, present, and future. But I also see ways it could be improved, and ways the improvements could be accomplished. That is part of the gifts in the garbage, as one of my friends calls it.
So I am an optimist in believing everything CAN be improved, it’s just a matter of willingness and resources. And I am an optimist in believing that there ARE gifts in every garbage. In fact, that’s why the garbage exists, to call attention to the gifts.
Then again, I am usually hopeless about things actually improving……
Free will ain’t a sacred cow for me. I have a heretical view of that notion, which most people would (sloppily and inaccurately) interpret as no free will. One of my New Age heresies, a very severe one. Very severe, as it impacts how we approach changing the world.
I don’t feel like a happy person, overall either. Too much guilt, too much hopelessness, too much anger at God and blaming of God. But I have my moments not of optimism but of “knowing” [not accurate word] the Bigger Picture, in which all that fades to less than nothing. Less. Like it never existed.
That somehow feels like a deeper and more authentic Me than the rest. And, fortunately, those moments are expanding in number and length, which I desire, but which I am only cooperating with; it’s a happening, not a doing….
Anyway, what I value most is honesty/authenticity, which is a version of Truth I treasure in self and others, and you reek of that !!!!!
Namaste, OM
Marmalade said
re my depression, maybe it’ll change but I’d be surprised if it did. I tried to change it… and, since that didn’t work, I tried the opposite tactic. That is my version of being practical.
I didn’t have you in mind when I was thinking of those three groups. I was mostly thinking about broad categories. I’ve heard your views on the New Age and so I know you don’t self-identify as a New Ager. I don’t know you well enough to say what I think you are to tell you the truth, but for some reason to me you’ve come across as an optimist. Of course, labels are relative in how we personally interpret them. You seem more optimistic than myself anyways. I do sometimes see the gifts in the garbage, but first and foremost I see the garbage. Actually, I usually don’t see a clear difference between the supposed garbage and the supposed gifts.
I like the distinction you made between CAN be improved vs actually improving. Sounds like the type of think I’d say.
Freewill… that is a heck of an issue. I’ve thought about blogging about it. Maybe I will. I could write a very long and detailed blog or even series of blogs about that subject. I’ve been thinking a fair bit about it. I was reading about freewill online and came across compatibalism which states that freewill and determinism are not in contradiction. The freewill/determinism debate is like the theism/atheism debate. According to compatibalism, freewill is relative. Freewill is meaningless as an abstraction, but in practical terms we must define the specific context. What specifically do we believe we are free from? Or what do we want to be free from?
I dig what you say about your “deeper and more authentic Me”. Good luck on expanding those moments in number and length. A happening, not a doing… yes, indeedy!
I reek? ummm… thanks. 🙂
Nicole said
Ben, I am really moved by what you are saying. Thank you for showing up as yourself to this extent though you are clearly very doubtful of getting what you need.
I have seen over and over here people expressing deep negativity, pain, suffering, heart cries – and finding others who resonate – yes! someone else who understands how deeply messed up the world is, thank you! So I believe the same will be of you, if you choose to show the “darker side” of Ben.
One of my closest friends here on the site loves really dark, angry music, has lived a very very difficult past (and blogs often about it) and sometimes shows up with very violent or heavy energy. He teaches me a lot , as you have done and are doing now much more, about how really unhelpful or inappropriate it can be to try to cheer people up or be optimistic at times. Now, when he gets in those kinds of places, I just walk over to him mentally and verbally and sit next to him, and we talk about it, and when he is ready to be alone again he lets me know and I quietly go.
I have no illusions about being able to understand what you live. I hear what you are saying about depression and it brings light for me, reminding me somewhat of times I have been depressed and had something I needed to work through about that, and just quietly turning away from all my friends who were telling me I had to “fix” the depression because they were uncomfortable with me being depressed. It wasn’t about them and I knew they couldn’t understand that.
I am greedy, Ben. I will admit it. I want to know about all of you, not just the parts of you that you think that I can relate to. In return, I promise to do my best to honour you and not impose my thoughts, feelings and beliefs all over that honesty.
Centria said
Ben, thank you for writing this and sharing more of who you are and feel and think. As someone who definitely leans towards optimism, I suddenly felt a rush of shame and guilt…..that so much obvious optimism might somehow not be honoring or respecting or allowing the more pessimistic sides to have their say, as well. Just reading your words and story helps balance something. Well, hopefully, anyway.
Last fall and winter I sat with a good friend who was very depressed. She was thinking of killing herself. It was tough to witness, tough to stay there with her, tough to honor exactly where she was in her life. Like you, part of her did not want to be optimistic. Part of her, as she expressed it, wanted to deeply feel the suffering of all beings. She didn’t want to hear any change-your-thinking-and-change-your-life mentality. So I listened. And she spoke sometimes, and didn’t speak for long months. And I did eventually recommend that she consider medication, and she eventually decided to seek help for her depression, and now she’s doing pretty well in her life. But it did seem very important not to “fix” the depression, not to turn immediately towards the light and cheery and bubbly and optimistic.
The words to express things are SO hard. Because we don’t know. But we use words and stories to attempt to explain….something…..but it’s never true and never accurate and is very often frustrating. I feel frustrated just trying to find any words to comment here. What could I possibly know of your life? Nothing, only the glimmering edges. And maybe not even those.
Yet I am always amazed when words come out of me pretending like they know or mean something. Because when I look closely at what’s inside there doesn’t seem to be much there. Emptiness. Yes, a structure exists, in which one can claim optimism or pessimism. But other than that….well, I feel there’s not much I can say that can express anything valuable here. Except I value your presence here on Gaia so much, your honesty, your thoughtfulness, the way you can’t be pinned down into any definitive category. Thank you Ben for continuing to share your truth…..and hopefully that fiction, as well.
1Vector3 said
Yeah, that was a tongue in cheek compliment, just for the fun of the language play. Glad you got it !!
Well if you do write about free will, Ben, I have a lot of comments ready !! Like determinism is definitely not the only alternative to the common notion of “free will,” not by a long shot. And that free will as commonly defined is not a necessary precondition of personal responsibility or morality.
Something Nicole said has indirectly triggered this thought which I am not sure I have expressed here before: “Depression” is to me a pretty meaningless catchall medical term. I often encounter people who consider themselves depressed, are labelled depressed, are treated as depressed, and to me they are just profoundly SAD, or feeling hopeless. To me, there is biochemically-induced depression, which is real and common, and a painkiller did that to me once, but on the very rare occasions when I have(fortunately for very brief periods) felt slow, heavy, apathetic, tight, weepy, paralyzed, untalkative, withdrawn / dissociated, it’s because I am sad or hopeless ABOUT SOMETHING. True depression is kinda about everything and nothing in particular, as I understand it.
I feel more optimistic haha about people being able to pull out of sadness or hopelessness (or any of the other particulars mentioned below) than I do biochemical depression, or true depression if that exists. But I don’t feel hopeless about any of it. Anything can change. Miracles do happen.
Oh, and lots and lots of people labelled depressed are of course suffering from anger turned toward self, or guilt or self-blame, that’s the classic psychological mechanism, but most of the ones I encounter are actually in deep grief or mourning, often about the state or condition of the world !!!! They are sensitive souls, and bear the grief and suffering of all, as personal. To label this as a psychological or psychiatric illness or disorder is to kinda miss the point; it’s a soul-level response to an observed situation. It is optional, but only if one realizes exactly what is going on.
So “depression” to me is vague and meaningless, unless further specified. Not that I am saying you need to, just sharing my view on a subject that’s commonly discussed these days.
So the checklist would be:
sad?
hopeless?
biochemical source?
anger at self, self-blame, guilt?
grief, mourning? personal or world?
None of the above?
Blessings, OM Bastet
1Vector3 said
Centria posted while I was composing. Point made: I do not consider her friend “clinically depressed” or mentally ill in any way shape or form. She is one of those I precisely mentioned; The souls who feel the suffering of everyone, as their own. I hate it when those people are put on medication – except for my OTOH below. I believe there are spiritually-based perspectives that could alleviate the perspective which is causing their “depression.” That “depression” or in truth empathetic sadness is based on an OPTIONAL way of looking at the world, at people, at suffering.
OTOH I believe that a prolonged time spent in any of the other “causes” I outlined above, ends up causing biochemical depression, in addition to any other cause, as the body adapts, and some holistic approach including body mind and spirit would be needed to really make a difference. At that point, anti-depressants might make the person more functional, but they are walking wounded, and the causative perspective still operates.
All this sounds like theory but I hope the passionate desire to alleviate needless suffering which is the engine of my life, comes through in somehow. I do it my way, not always very personal or cuddly, those ways too are marvelous. I resonate with and respect and in fact sometimes do, in personal life, the kinds of “being with” and “grokking” that Nicole and Centria have described.
Hey, Ben, this is becoming Collective Wisdom on a very very common issue. Would you be willing????? Any others object??? Perhaps not really soon, but sometime after the energy has moved on from here??
Blessings, OM
starlight said
My theory is that I am what I am and I experience what I experience… and as far as I can
tell this theory applies to everyone. I’m happy when I’m happy and I enjoy life when I
enjoy it. Conversely, I’m depressed when I’m depressed and I gladly curse God almighty
when I’m in a bad mood.
see, i think this is way cool…that you know and accept where you are…and that you are
not running around trying to pretend otherwise…which is what i did for years…never
facing myself…running from drugs and alcohol back to religion always escaping from the
now i was in…shew…today, b/c of my recovery program, i do not have to live that way…
i could never just be honest with me…until…i was able to be…of course, once i was
finally able to get honest…that enabled me to really use the 12 steps and to open up
that awareness…now, i deal with life on life’s terms…it has been a lot of work…and
much of it has been very painful…but i would not trade my life now for anything…
For happy people, I say more power to them. Overall, I’m not a happy person myself.
But who wouldn’t choose to be a happy person if such things were actually choices.
I’ve tried to be one of those happy people. It just didn’t work out. We all have our
fates. Some people just have easier fates than others. I can hear people responding
with the opinion that nothing is fated, and all I can say is that such a person believes
this way because their nature and life experience has led them to do so.
i would say, from my experience, that happiness and depression both, are way’s of
experiencing this reality…and i tend to agree that there is no choice…on another forum
many of us went round and round on this…here is my story as it relates to choices…
when situations unfolded several years ago, that have led me along this journey that i
got sober on, i would say that i had no control over them, nor did i have a choice at
that very moment when the officer put handcuffs on me and dragged me off to face my own consequences of my behavior…however; everything i had done up to that point…had led me to that point…and looking back, no one put a gun to my head and made me behave in the ways that i had…so, i had to take responsibility for my actions…
i soon ran out of people, places, and things to blame for my behavior, b/c i had started
looking honestly at me…i am grateful that i had the awareness to do this, for i am
reminded that many near and dear to me, do not…i eventually even ran out of the idea
of a god to blame anything on, or to depend on persay, or to praise and thank for even
the grace of awareness…it just is…and i have accepted that today…and for those that
it is not…well, that just is too…
my own experience however, of taking these steps, which are just a journey within, taught
me that though i did not have a choice once i picked up that first drug or drink, or even a choice as to whether or not i used then…that b/c of the clarity of awareness i have today, i do have a choice whether or not to go down that road of insanity again…tomorrow,
i don’t know about…but today i am aware, and i am emotionally sober, as well as clean from chemical substances…i also learned that using was not my problem…it was my solution…my problem was a lack of power to live life on life’s terms…i have sense found that power within my own awareness…and it is way cool…lol
i learned through this program how to live life on it’s own terms…to stay awake to the
moment of now, and stay out of yesterday…out of tomorrow…and out of my head…i found
too, that every negative or positive feeling was due to conditioned awareness…and the
reason that i believe anything…is also due to that conditioning…so i really resonate
with that last sentence of yours in the paragraph above…
this way of thinking gave me an opening though…if i am responsible for how i feel…
what i think…what i believe…and my behavior…then that meant that i could change it…
first by recognizing it…accepting it…then remaining open to the now of awareness of the
moment…and it’s potential for change…THIS WAS VERY POWERFUL FOR ME…AND IS STILL…
when i am able to remain aware, i tap into that inner power, that inner strength, that we all have within our own awareness…
i might not be able to change or control the fact that a tornado destroys my house and all
my material possessions, but i do have the ability…today…to choose what i think about
that…and by changing my thoughts…i change my feelings…on a very simple level…
instead of reacting by conditioned beliefs and habitual emotions…i am free, in this
moment, to look at it another way…
there is a saying in recovery…
we cannot hear until we hear…we cannot see until we see…
iow…IT TAKES WHAT IT TAKES…
Freewill is a sacred cow for optimists, but it doesn’t mean much to me. I’ve spent much
of my life trying to choose something other than this life I have. Nevertheless, here I
am as I am. I’ve tried to just love life and enjoy the simple things. I have found some
basic sense of contentment, but depression always returns and my periods of depression last way longer than my brief moments of carefree happiness.
concerning freewill…i tend to think that we are puppets of awareness for the most part…
and yet, as i mentioned, in each moment of pristine awareness, there is the potential for
change…but even that change is not concrete…it just is…and i have learned to
experience my life in that ever-free moment of now…awake…present…even to the feelings
that i may not enjoy…like last night…i had gas…damn…it hurt…LOL
what i have experienced too…is that this very journey of life…is an awakening…if i
but pay attention…and remain present in the moment…
i have come to know depression and happiness as the protective layers of our conditioned awareness…we protect ourselves with both of them…and in my experience…they both have been necessary…to get me to right here right now…underneath all those layers of conditioning…i found my own true nature…and when i can remain there, which i can now most of the time…it is beyond awesome…beyond happy…beyond peace…beyond depression beyond suffering…beyond physical pain…beyond now…like Buddha said…it is bliss…nonconceptual…and free…(i am not a buddhist however)…i have even gone beyond being labeled as anything…(religiously speaking…lol)
i am a human being…and i still own my suffering and pain…my joy and sorrow…in the moment when i experience it…but it does not control my life, the way i think, believe, feel or act today…and i still have conditioning i am working through…mostly opening up further and integrating awareness with life experiencing…which you dear Ben, sharing yourself so honestly, have helped me with…
my sister is very sick with depression…my mother is very mentally ill…and we both were raised with this; it affected us differently, but needless to say we both were very much affected…and it has been so difficult for me (accepting her depression), b/c i have been on the other end of it…but i watched my sister start opening up…she was going to meetings with me, and she was blossoming…but she began shutting down again when she had to get honest…her critical thinking muscles are lazy…she holds on to her beliefs of religion like a little child not letting go of her blankie…and she is addicted to the idea of depression….and i stopped trying to push her here after her last two threats to kill herself…but i do not feed into her depression either…i allow her to be just what she is…and she is a beautiful being…very funny and intelligent…she just really is not aware of that…her mind is so tangled with guilt and shoulda, woulda, coulda’s…and a lot of childhood trauma…she is not at this time capable of facing herself…and with the medicines she is having to take, i don’t expect this to change…but, i do not believe that it cannot change…just like…i may wake up tomorrow
with the beginning of Alzheimers…some things again…we have no control over…but i am
awake and aware at this very moment…and it is within my control at this moment…to allow
my own true nature to just be…our conversations here, will no doubt enable me to be of more service to her…if nothing more than on the level of understanding…i thank you for that…
I suspect that everyone tries and enjoy their lives as much as possible, but what is
possible is not the same for everyone. That reminds me of what my Grandmother used
to say: “Everyone is doing the best for where they’re at.” Not much more can be said
than that.
there is another saying similar to that that i love…
“When we know better…we can do better.”
today…i take responsibility for my knowing…and my doing…but i realize today too…that this is a gift of the grace of awareness…
much love Ben…always, star…
Marmalade said
The thing is that I fully realize that when speaking about depression online like this only invites people offering advice and whatever. Its to be expected even if its not what I want. I’ve a number of times responded to someone’s sharing of hardships only to discover they didn’t even want any response at all. I’m not like that because I always appreciate responses, but years of hearing advice has soured me on those kind of responses. How I see advice is that if something works for you, then that is good… but it may not be useful to anyone else.
To some extent I understand other viewpoints, but I don’t know how to bridge the distance between my viewpoint and those of others. My personal understanding is complex and contradictory. Sometimes, I sense a genuine goodness and at othe times I would declare without a doubt that this world is a living hell. At other times, I feel they may both be simultaneously true.
Hey OM, feel free to start a thread in the Collective Wisdom pod.
starlight said
well, i cannot speak for anyone else, but i really was trying to just share my experience, strength, and hope…and specifically that…i understand that it might seem that i was trying to give advice…however; i assure you that i am aware that my path is not yours and vice a versa…but i cannot deny, that i would think it way cool, if you got something from it you could use…i would hope that you would be open to that…
the only way to bridge the difference between viewpoints, is to remain open as far as i can see…iow, allow yourself the willingness to see things differently…but again, that is a tool i use…that has worked for me…
always, star…
Marmalade said
I’m just not in the mood for positive intentions, be it advice or not. I’m open to what you’ve said, but at this point in my life I feel like I’ve heard it all.
I was raised in New Thought Christianity. I spent years reading about and practicing positive thinking. I’ve been to a Landmark Forum which teaches how to take control of your life. I used to have a regular yoga and meditation practice for years. I’ve been to many psychotherapists, psychiatrists, and even a shamanic healer. And I went to a Shiatsu massage school where I learned alternative healing including energy work. Sounds like a resume. lol
I understand not wanting to blame God or other external forces, but I neither want to blame myself. If doing all that I’ve tried isn’t good enough, then just hell with it all. Its not your fault that I’m feeling irritable, and I’m not saying that I don’t want to hear other people’s perspectives. I’m almost always willing to see things differently. I’ve dedicated most of my life trying to see things differently. But maybe at the moment I’m not in the best of moods for feeling open towards certain perspectives.
I’m sorry if I sounded critical, but afterall I am feeling quite critical. Please understand that it isn’t you personally or anything specific. Its just how I feel, but I don’t expect anyone else would want to listen to my griping. I’m just expressing my criticalness because its worse if I don’t.
Centria said
There’s no other option, Mr. Cat, then to take you exactly as you are in this very moment. That’s good enough for me. 🙂
Nicole said
You’ve explored so many avenues… I fall silent next to you and simply offer U2 – I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For
If you do want feedback or if there is anything else I can do, I’m here, Ben. Love you.
starlight said
well, take your irritable ass to a 12 step meeting! LOL…i don’t see that on your list…and it really sounds like you need one…LMAO…(just a suggestion…lol)