Tag Archives: Quotes

Moltmann on Identity, the Cross, & Discipleship

Hopefully tomorrow I will start posting outlines of Moltmann’s works, starting with The Crucified God.  These will be nothing fancy, just lightly edited and adapted entries from my academic journal.  I’m hopeful that if formatted properly they will stimulate some interesting conversation.  In anticipation of that, here is a quote I found quite moving:

Anyone who does not put himself to the test is hardly tried or tested at all.  Only when, with all the understanding and consistency he possesses, a man follows Christ along the way of self-emptying into non-identity, does he encounter contradiction, resistance and opposition.  Only when he leaves behind the circle of those who share and reinforce his opinions in the church, to go out into the anonymity of slums and peace movements, in a society ‘where the absence of peace is organized’, is he tempted and tested, inwardly and outwardly.    Then the crisis inevitably comes, in which the identity of that for which he involves and commits himself comes into question, and a decision has to be made about it [18].

 

Maybe There’s Only One Topic Off Limits …

Apparently even among renown theologians some topics are off-limits at the proverbial dinner table:

Whereas he knew that I was on the side of the Latin American Liberation Theologians, he [Pannenberg] fought vigorously against them … with the aim of silencing liberation theology.  Since then we have preferred to talk about problems of the immanent Trinity rather than about politics.

So if you’re scoring at home, theology yes (if you must), but politics no-avoid at all cost, even at the cost of discussing the immanent Trinity instead.

Jurgen Moltmann, A Broad Place, 107.

Weekend Quote

This week has been consumed by work & preparing to see my family this weekend for the first time since moving to MN.  The CCH will return next week after they are gone, but for now here is a quote that despite it’s apparent banality struck me this morning:

‎No religion can survive which does not know where it is. And current religion does not know where it is, and it hates to be made to ask. It hates theology.

~P.T. Forsyth

Theology: Both/And

‎If theology were to lose its freedom to criticize, it would turn into the ideology of the church in its existing forms. If it were to lose the fellowship of the church, it would stop being Christian theology & turn into a kind of science of religion. As Christian theology, theology has to remind the church of the lordship of Christ and has to insist that the church’s form be an authentic one.

~Moltmann, The Church in the Power of the Spirit, 7.

Pithy Comment of the Night

this distinction between solving problems and elucidating mysteries has, since the Enlightenment, become almost completely lost within theology.

-Thomas Weinandy, Does God Suffer?

AM Quote

The project is hypertropic because it is hopeless.  If theological prolegomena lay down conceptual conditions of Christian teaching that are not themselves Christian teaching, that are more than a formal demand for coherence and argumentative responsibility, and that in the Western world are therefore theologoumena of Mediterranean paganism, the prolegomena sooner or later turn against the legomena.

-Robert Jenson, ST Vol. 1, 9.

 

Encouraging Quote

Nothing profound tonight, just an encouraging quote for me, given my propensity for theological wishy-washyness:

Moreover, just because an intellectual trend seems irresistible is no reason for not resisting it . . . arguments and theories, however dominant in the intellectual life of their day, have to be assessed on their own merits, not accepted uncritically simply because they are espoused by the majority.

[12-3]

Hauerwas on Being a Successful Theologian

In an interview with Hauerwas i recently watched (HT: Jason), he makes the following observation regarding the proper motivation for theological work:

I think about the worst thing you can possibly be today is a successful academic.  I know that seems bad because it looks like I am a successful academic, but I want the success that comes through being an academic to be that which rides on the back of caring more fundamentally about the Subject itself.

Not earth-shattering, but always a good reminder.

Ray Anderson on Flying

One of the most quotable theologians I have encountered so far in my studies is Ray Anderson.  Here is the latest gem I have found, from his recent published sermon series on the book of Ecclesiastes, where he deals with the inherent tension humans feel due to being of both dust and spirit:

So it is with Christians, added Kierkegaard; they conclude that the domesticating grace of God is not meant to take seriously the wings of the Spirit, for to do so emaciates one’s well-being and destroys one’s peace as an earth-bound creature.  Whereas, in fact, the wings are meant to be used, humans have Spirit, and thus are destined to live a transcendent life, above mere earthly existence.  You see the point of all this is that God has put eternity in your heart.  It means sadness if you are aware of it.  But that sadness is the beating of the wings of your spirit against the prison of the frustrations that encompass you.  And in beating your wings and protesting against the contradictions of life you become more aware, become more of an individual, not just apart of the flock; this means suffering, but the spirit is alive! 

[emphasis mine, 22-3]

Possibly My New Favorite Quote

From Eugene Peterson’s Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places:

I love to sin; God loves to forgive; The world is admirably arranged.

Niebuhrian Quote #2

Book Review 15

I am almost finished with Christ and Culture.  I would have to say that so far my favorite chapter has been on “Christ and Culture in Paradox.”   Here is another thought-provoking snippet, referring to the ethical complexity that is birthed out of this view:

. . . where he has been entrusted with the care of others, as father or governor, there in obedience to God he must use force to defend his neighbors against force.  The greater sin here is to want to be holy or to exercise mercy where mercy is destructive.  As God does a ‘strange’ work-that is, a work not apparently merciful but wrathful-in natural and historical calamities, so He requires the obedient Christian to do ‘strange’ work that hides the mercy of which it is the instrument (178).

Niebuhrian Quote

Book Review 15

Recently i have been working through H. Richard Niebuhr’s classic Christ & Culture.  Although opinion of this work has taken some hits  over the years, it is if nothing else a great read due to Niebuhr’s chops as a writer.  Some quotes are especially good, like this one on sin from his chapter “Christ & Culture In Paradox”

When man cannot any longer assure himself that he is the master of his physical fate, he turns to the things he believes are really under his control, such things as sincerity and integrity, and tries to shelter himself under his honesty; in this domain, at least, he thinks he can get along without grace, an independent good man, needing nothing he cannot himself supply (155). 

I am hoping to finish the book this weekend, but i doubt i can review it until the week after next b/c i am spending an intense week in ministry with our middle school version of VBS.  Should be a great time.  Until then, hopefully you can enjoy some more quotes from this classic work.

A Quote Worth Reflection

In case you didn’t know. Ben Myers’ blog is probably the best theological blog on the web.  One of the main reasons why is that many intelligent minds grapple with each other by commenting on Ben’s blog, one of the brighest being Kim Fabricius.  In the comments section of a recent post, Kim pulls out a great quote from Vinoth Ramachandra in his work Subverting Global Myths: Theology and the Public Issues Shaping Our World (2008), one worth pondering:

Why are North American or British or German theologies [and philosophies?] never named as such, but Indian or Latin American or African theologies are? Western theologies are simply assumed to be universal, but non-Western theologies are ‘contextual.’ The insularity of most Western theological institutions is astonishing.

This seems pretty spot on to me.  Agree/disagree?

Further thoughts on Limitation

 

In light of my most recent post (before this one of course!), i thought i would give you a quote that a staff member of an apologetics site said regarding soteriology:

“Every view of soteriology limits atonement, unless you are a universalist.

The question becomes, is it limited in scope (i.e., who it is for) or is it limited in effectiveness (i.e., it can fail to save some for whom it was made).”

What i appreciate about this quote is that this participant (whose screen name is “Love Supreme”) understands that to attempt to perform theological reflection it is a necessary part of the undertaking to “limit.”  In fact, i would go further than him and claim that even to be a univeralist is to limit in some fashion, in the sense that it severs certain passages and concepts (eg hell, necessity of atonement) from their traditional classical theological moorings.  Since all doctrines are supposed to (roughly) cohere with each other, to be a univeralist is to (as i see it) significantly compromise other aspects of doctrine. 

In doing theology one cannot help but have certain starting places or points of emphasis.  This is actually a good thing, since i can learn from others and even adapt my paradigm in ways i would neve see on my own, if i’m willing to let myself examine their view with integrity.  Here is where doing theology in community, can really bless the body of Christ.

Hopefully we can be grateful for our differences, and approach them with charity and humility, seeking to come closer to the Triune God, who isn’t bound, or afraid of, the limits we put on Him when we seek truth.

Meditation on Hope #2

God hasn’t given up on man (me) or the world in which he lives:

“The Christian view of history is essentially salvation history, centered on the person and work Jesus Christ.  At the 1st point, the death and resurrection of Christ stretches back to the beginning of creation and makes clear that God has not ceased creating, despite the fall, sin, evil, suffering, wars and injustice.  In other words, what is promised and implicit in God’s initial creation to accomplish what is good continues to be the will of God in history (emphasis mine).” 

 God, thank you for your relentless pursuit of our restoration.

[Source: Yeo Khiok-Khng “An Eschatological View of History in the New Testament: Messianic and  Millenarian Hope,” in
Asia Journal of Theology 15 (April 2001), 38-51]