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Are Children Assumed to be Saved? « Green Baggins

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , on March 30, 2008 by Ron Smith

baptism.jpgThe TR answer to this question appears to be “No.”

Are Children Assumed to be Saved? « Green Baggins

I believe The Canons of Dordt answer this question in the affirmative, only it does not use the word “assume”, but rather it says that parents “ought not doubt.”

Article 17: The Salvation of the Infants of Believers
Since we must make judgments about God’s will from his Word, which testifies that the children of believers are holy, not by nature but by virtue of the gracious covenant in which they together with their parents are included, godly parents ought not to doubt the election and salvation of their children whom God calls out of this life in infancy.

Now, taking into account the “P” in TULIP (I argue as a TR), if we can have faith that had our infants died in their infancy, their election would be sure, why then can Christian parents not hold that same faith in regard to their children who live past infancy?

See Also On Faith and Presumption for an explanation of the difference between faith in God’s promises and “assumption”.

Common Anti-FV Misconception #2

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , on March 23, 2008 by Ron Smith
baptism.jpgAn exhortation to a baptized covenant member that they can look to their baptism in faith and be assured of God’s promises made at their baptism is tantamount to teaching baptismal regeneration.

First, I have two credible examples of this teaching of baptismal assurance being found within historic reformed orthodoxy; one from Luther, and the other from Calvin.

Second, I have two examples of this teaching being equivocated with the assumption that everyone who is baptized is elect.

The first is in a comment from reformedmusings over at Green Baggins. Upon my stating that we can teach our children to believe the promises of God made at their baptism, reformedmusings responds,

“Since not everyone who is baptized is saved, I wonder how far you can take your assertion. The Confession and Catechisms are clear that not everyone in the covenant of grace broadly considered receives the benefits of regeneration, justification, adoption, sanctification, and glorification. How do you explain that to kids who are taught that they should assume they are saved from infancy because of their baptism?”

Note how my use of the word “believe” is translated to “assume”. I would say that teaching a child that they cannot fall away from the faith is teaching them to “assume”, but that is for another post. Let me just add here that teaching a child that they must continue in faith to the end precludes any assumptions about their covenant status, but includes faith in God’s promises about their covenant status.

The second example is from one GeneMBridges commenting on Triablogue. My question was,“Would you agree that every baptized Christian can look to their baptism in faith and be assured of God’s promises?” The response from GeneMBridges was that this rejected the “mixed” nature of the covenant and was tantamount to baptismal regeneration.

Now to the rebuttal. Read carefully. I will try to be as clear as possible.

Encouraging a baptized Christian that they can look to their baptism in faith and be assured of God’s promises is not the same as saying that everyone who is baptized is elect or regenerate. It is only saying that everyone who is baptized and looks to their baptism in faith is elect and regenerate.

If one does not mix Gospel promises with faith, he cannot receive the fruit of those promises. (Hebrews 4:2)

Nevertheless, I am baptized

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , on March 23, 2008 by Ron Smith

More baptismal assurance from Luther: 

“Thus we must regard Baptism and make it profitable to ourselves, that when our sins and conscience oppress us, we strengthen ourselves and take comfort and say: Nevertheless I am baptized; but if I am baptized, it is promised me that I shall be saved and have eternal life, both in soul and body.”~ Martin Luther, The Large Catechism, XIIIA. Part Fourth Of Infant Baptism.

Baptism Abides Forever

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , on March 22, 2008 by Ron Smith

225px-luther46c.jpg“Therefore, if you live in repentance, you walk in Baptism, which not only signifies such a new life, but also produces, begins, and exercises it. For therein are given grace, the Spirit, and power to suppress the old man, so that the new man may come forth and become strong.

Therefore our Baptism abides forever; and even though some one should fall from it and sin, nevertheless we always have access thereto, that we may again subdue the old man. But we need not again be sprinkled with water; for though we were put under the water a hundred times, it would nevertheless be only one Baptism, although the operation and signification continue and remain. Repentance, therefore, is nothing else than a return and approach to Baptism, that we repeat and practise what we began before, but abandoned.” ~ Martin Luther, The Large Catechism, XIIIA. Part Fourth Of Infant Baptism.

Am I understanding Luther correctly that Baptism “produces, begins, and exercises” new life and that in baptism “are given grace, the Spirit, and power to suppress the old man”?

Chesterton – Materialism vs. Mysticism

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , , on March 15, 2008 by Ron Smith

g__k__chesterton.jpgThanks to Rube for putting me on to Chesterton’s audio books. This last week, I have hardly noticed my twice-a-day one hour long commute as I have been immersed in Orthodoxy. More than once, I have felt compelled to pause the mp3 half-way to work or home and spend the rest of the drive shaking my head and talking to myself, which experts say is good for a developing mind.

Thus far, the treatise appears to be almost exclusively against non-Christian, humanistic thought, but I would like to apply it further to the various sacramentologies found within in the Church. In the world, there are two sorts of skeptics: the one who “cannot believe his senses”, and the one who “cannot believe anything else” but his senses. According to Chesterton, both are maniacal, not because they are unreasonable, but because they are utterly reasonable, and this effects their ruin.

Likewise, in the Church, there is the baptist who cannot believe his senses when he sees, feels, smells, and tastes the tangible signs and seals of God’s Covenant promises, and there is the RC who holds to an ex opere operato view of the sacraments, and with regard to the sacraments, he cannot believe anything but his senses. According to Chesterton, both ends of this sort of continuum are a result of speculative logic and the destruction of mystery.

“The ordinary man has always been sane because the ordinary man has always been a mystic. … He has always cared more for truth than for consistency. If he saw two truths that seemed to contradict each other, he would take the two truths and the contradiction along with them. … Thus he has always believed that there was such a thing as fate, but such a thing as free will also. Thus he believed that children were indeed the kingdom of heaven, but nevertheless ought to be obedient to the kingdom of earth. He admired youth because it was young and age because it was not. It is exactly this balance of apparent contradictions that has been the whole buoyancy of the healthy man. The whole secret of mysticism is this: that man can understand everything by the help of what he does not understand. The morbid logician seeks to make everything lucid, and succeeds in making everything mysterious. The mystic allows one thing to be mysterious, and everything else becomes lucid. Chapter 2, The Maniac

So, there cannot be understanding apart from the acceptance of mystery. There are certain inconsistencies (or more properly, mysteries) that surface when the confession states, for instance, that the Covenant of Grace is made with Christ and all the elect as His seed (WCF LC31), and that the children of believers (not all of whom are elect) are also members of that covenant (WCF LC166). Adoption is only said to be a benefit of those who are effectually called (WCF SC32) and thus elect (WCF LC68), but baptism is said to be the solemn admission of the party baptized into the visible church (WCF XXVIII.I) which is the house and family of God (WCF XXV.II). How then is baptism not adoption even for non-elect recipients of it?

On the question of materialism vs. mysticism, note where Chesterton lands. “The mystic allows one thing to be mysterious, and everything else becomes lucid.”  He asserts that understanding is found in sticking mostly to the visible, while allowing a dash of the mysterious. With regard to the objective reality of the sacraments, this seems to be where the confession lands as well:

WCF XXVIII.V “Although it is a great sin to contemn or neglect this ordinance, yet grace and salvation are not so inseparably annexed unto it, as that no person can be regenerated, or saved, without it: or, that all that are baptized are undoubtedly regenerated.

VI The efficacy of Baptism is not tied to that moment of time wherein it is administered; yet, notwithstanding, by the right use of this ordinance, the grace promised is not only offered, but really exhibited, and conferred, by the Holy Ghost, to such (whether of age or infants) as that grace belongs unto, according to the counsel of God’s own will, in His appointed time.”

Here, the confession acknowledges the efficaciousness of the visible sign, while also acknowledging the invisibility of God’s eternal counsel. The one whom Chesterton refers to as a “morbid logician” would attempt to reconcile the tension and eventually either favor the visible above the invisible, or vice versa. One will be a baptist and say the reality lies in God’s invisible election (i.e. regardless of baptism, only the elect are in the Covenant of Grace), and the another will be a papist and say that the truth lies in the visible sign (i.e. all who are baptized are infused with grace upon baptism).

From what I gather, the framers of the Westminster Confession knew the propensity for morbid logical speculation in the western mind, so they warned against it and called it sin. Listed in the Larger Catechism among the sins forbidden in the first and third commands are “bold and curious searching into [God’s] secrets” and “curious prying into, and misapplying of God’s decrees and providences.” (WCF LC105,113) The scripture text offered for these on both counts is Deuteronomy 29:29 “The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.”

Hypocrites in the Covenant of Grace

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , on March 12, 2008 by Ron Smith

baptism.jpgFor the record, one does not have to be a “Federal Vision heretic” to hold that there are both believers and unbelievers in the Covenant of Grace. In fact, you can hold this and be one of those most vocally opposed of the FV:

“Thus, in our confessional and classic covenant theology, we have accounted for the co-existence in the visible church of believers and hypocrites by speaking of those who are in the church “externally” only, by baptism, and those who are also in the church “internally” through faith which apprehends Christ and his benefits. Both sets of people are in the covenant of grace but they sustain different relations to it. R. Scott Clark, D.Phil., Baptism and the Benefits of Christ: The Double Mode of Communion in the Covenant of Grace, The Confessional Presbyterian, 2006, p4

So my question is this: How should these hypocrites in the Church who are in the covenant of grace be addressed? As people who are not it real covenant with God, or as unfaithful, covenant breakers who need to repent and be faithful to the covenant into which God graciously brought them?

The Law of God and Progressive Regeneration

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , , on March 5, 2008 by Ron Smith

ten_commandments.jpgYou read that subject rightly. First, a little background for those who are like me and relatively unacquainted with the Lutheran wing of the Reformation: The Formula of Concord is the primary Lutheran confessional document composed in 1577. One of the major contributors was Martin Chemnitz, who studied under Luther and Melanchthon at Wittenberg and later taught there himself. 

Chapter 6 on the third use of the Law, section 4 (or 3, maybe – the numbering is weird) states:

For although they are regenerate and renewed in the spirit of their mind, yet in the present life this regeneration and renewal is not complete, but only begun, and believers are, by the spirit of their mind, in a constant struggle against the flesh, that is, against the corrupt nature and disposition which cleaves to us unto death. On account of this old Adam, which still inheres in the understanding, the will, and all the powers of man, it is needful that the Law of the Lord always shine before them, in order that they may not from human devotion institute wanton and self-elected cults [that they may frame nothing in a matter of religion from the desire of private devotion, and may not choose divine services not instituted by God’s Word]; likewise, that the old Adam also may not employ his own will, but may be subdued against his will, not only by the admonition and threatening of the Law, but also by punishments and blows, so that he may follow and surrender himself captive to the Spirit.

I quote this for two reasons:

  • To support recent comments with regard to some reformers’ usage of the word “regeneration” in the sense we typically use the word “sanctification”.
    • This may help us understand some reformers’ willingness to tie regeneration to baptism (e.g. Calvin’s Institutes, 4.15.4; 4.17.1). Under this paradigm, Baptism would mark the commencement of our regeneration/sanctification.
    • It makes sense to me that under the first Adam we are ordinarily generated, and under the Last Adam we are re-generated. But since we still suffer some of the effects of our ordinary generation under the first Adam, it stands to reason that we are not yet completely regenerated under the Last Adam. So “born again” points to our final glorified state in Christ when the curses of our ordinary generation, up to and including death, are finally defeated.
  • To point out that even the hardest line Lutheran Law/Gospel theological document (that I know of) states that the moving of the Spirit is contingent upon the perpetual reading and preaching of God’s Law.
    • This is totally rad (literally so for some, I am sure).
    • Let the “indicative only” ear ticklers put that in their pipe and smoke it.

Kline foretells the Federal Vision controversy back in 1968

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , on March 5, 2008 by Ron Smith

baptism.jpgThis is an excerpt from Kline’s BY OATH CONSIGNED: A REINTERPRETATION OF THE COVENANT SIGNS OF CIRCUMCISION AND BAPTISM, which was published in 1968.

The covenantal data of historical exegesis which the dogmatic theologian has failed to do justice to in his definition will eventually have to be dealt with somehow or other, but the treatment of them will be problematic and awkward. In fact, it will be impossible to incorporate elements like correlative promise-threat or actual divine vengeance against the disobedient as covenantal elements. This impossibility may be obscured by means of a distinction made between an internal and external covenant, but what that manifestly amounts to is the use of the word “covenant” for what is by prior definition the contradiction of covenant. Other symptoms of the inadequacy of such an approach to the definition of covenant appear in the history of Covenant Theology. Among them are the separation of the so-called “Counsel of Redemption” from the “Covenant of Grace” and not a little of the debate over whether or not the covenant is conditional. Coherence can be achieved in Covenant Theology only by the subordination of grace to law. Election must be subordinated to covenant, the representative headship of the two Adams to the lordship of God, redemption to creation. Rejection of the equation of covenant with the election-guaranteed promise principle is necessary to avoid the conceptual fragmentation of the theology of the covenant. (p. 34-35)

So according to Kline in 1968:

  • Covenant theologians had not done justice to the scriptures in their definition of “covenant”, making promise/threat elements of covenant impossible
  • The definition of “covenant” as “external/internal” contradicts the prior definition of covenant
  • Election must be subordinated to covenant (which is exactly what the FV is accused of, though they are really just trying to balance both in an environment where covenant has been subordinated to election. So Kline was more extreme than the FV on this point.)
  • We must reject the equation of “covenant” with “election-guaranteed promise”.

Kline later rejected much of this work. But people are getting persecuted, er uh … I mean prosecuted for permitting such things to be said among their presbyters these days. Where were the witch hunters back in the 60s when Kline wrote this? Perhaps there was an environment where theological tensions such as that between election and covenant could be discussed freely without threat of loss of ministry and livelihood.

Now Accepting Apologies

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , on March 5, 2008 by Ron Smith

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As it turns out, the concept of a believer being assured of his right standing before God by virtue of his baptism is only as reformed as John Calvin:

Baptism to the Rescue « Wedgewords

Now accepting apologies.

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