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  1. I have a question for you all. How do we get rid of the Elite as a whole? It’s a serious question because if we don’t consider it, the Elite clearly will “get rid of us poor people as a whole.”

    The Epstein Files are a miasma of malevolence and quite revealing of the Elite’s mindset. There’s a reason the global Elite have sat back and watched Israel genocide the Palestinians, nay supported it if not directly certainly tacitly, and that reason is revealed in the Epstein Files as so much more is revealed. The global Elite are cutting their teeth on the Palestinian genocide. It’s their scrimmage before the “poor people as a whole” are gotten rid of via their Super Bowl.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzGyRyeC4IE

    Funny how the mainstream media isn’t covering this part. I wonder why? Instead, it’s Samantha Guthrie’s mother.

  2. Bob

    @L&S
    There isn’t anything anyone can do. Since the first time a human put a fence up and got to keep their fence and their life, humans have accepted slavery instead of confrontation.
    Everything is far too complex now for any sort of conscious interdiction and removal of the ruling class. Only a force of nature or some sort of divine energy will enable a change to occur. Everyone needs to become totally opposed to being told what to do, has to lose belief in any hierarchy or in the superiority of one human over another (I don’t mean the superiority of Frank Zappa over Taylor Swift). Everyone has to lose belief also in the right to technology and surplus. But that one is the most impossible.

  3. Mark Level

    Nice, long interview by Max Blumenthal with Christian Parenti regarding his father Michael Parenti’s struggles to keep employed in Academia, and also the widespread suppression of Parenti’s books because he was unapologetically pro-3rd World and Anti-Imperialist, which the MSM gatekeepers know is unacceptable and gross. Michael died recently at age 91. The short clips show what a good speaker he was, bit of a comedian like Max, he could often get a good laugh out of the audience pointing out obvious truths that are verboten among the Liberal PMC class as well as Right-Wingers, of course.

    Link is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynp4_Y7JetU, it’s an hour 45 minutes, pretty in depth.

  4. Mark Level

    Also of interest and very funny (in a bit of a mean-spirited way): The blockhead moron Mark Rutte made a speech before NATO today, they tried to fill the seats with viewers but it was quite empty and everyone there was dis-spirited , looking down gloomily or just away, nobody even believed the fake Hopium that there were coming “security gains” for Ukraine. It’s over, even most of the blob knows it.

    There is also as funny “Easter egg” in this video; I won’t spoil it for those who watch, just wait until 20 minutes in and you will see it. Uncanny and weird, you’ll have to watch to even believe it.

    Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis, veteran of both Afghanistan and Iraq theaters, was recommended by Tulsi Gabbard for a Cabinet seat, but of course the ghouls around Donnie said no. Nice that he’s putting out videos on YTube. And unlike the disgraced Dan Bongino who’s returned to Podcasting after covering up for the Epstein files, Davis has an audience.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kttBKm1qsd8

  5. KT Chong

    The entire American system is broken. It’s fully captured by depraved, grotesque elites.

    Powerful people trafficked minors, auctioned them off, raped and tortured them for years — impregnating them over and over, then ripping away the newborns for who-knows-what purpose; ritual sacrifices? Killing them to erase evidence? When the girls and women were used up, they got snuffed, murdered, their bodies dumped like trash.

    Declassification finally exposed it all… and nothing happened. The Epstein files exposed something much worse: total impunity.

    Elites used to dread exposure. Now they know it changes nothing. Files dropped, names leaked out, crimes detailed — and crickets. No prosecutions. No accountability. Just media blackout until the public forgets and moves on.

    This only emboldens the elites further. They can get away with *anything*, even when caught red-handed.

    The system is completely broken, fully captured by those elites.

    Americans are NOT going to be able to vote their way out of this one.

  6. mago

    KT Chong nailed it.
    “They” really do think we’re stupid and we are for letting “them” get away with it when we have the numbers.
    And numbly we stumble into that no so gentle night. Mumbly and dumbly.
    Isn’t there some kind of big deal stadium sport taking over America this Sunday?
    Pass the Cheetos and chicken wings. Pop another beer because the future’s uncertain and the end is always near. Just ask Jim Morrison, or Alice. Take your pick.
    Any way you look at it you lose. (Thanks S&G).
    Enjoy your life while it’s still yours to enjoy. Ciao for now.

  7. Davis needs to be consistent. I agree with his assessment of Afghanistan. He called it right about Afghanistan well in advance, more than a decade in advance, of America’s ultimate withdrawal during Biden’s term. I haven’t researched it, but I’m curious what his opinion is about the Soviet Union’s invasion and occupation of Afghanistan that resulted in the Soviet Union’s withdrawal. Was that doomed to failure from the start? For the same basic reasons America’s adventure in Afghanistan was doomed to fail?

    As we have seen, invasion and occupation don’t work. It didn’t work for the Soviet Union and it won’t work for Russia now and it doesn’t work for America either. The outcome is always the same. Failing states does work, so if that’s the true goal, be it Russia or America, under the aegis of some other false justification, well, bravo, job well done be it Russia in Ukraine or America in Iraq.

    Fyi, Ukraine clamored for independence from Russia during the Russian revolution and in fact declared it before the Bolsheviks ultimately invaded and occupied it.

    Ukraine’s declaration of independence in 1918 refers to the Fourth Universal on January 22, 1918, by the Ukrainian People’s Republic (UNR) from the Russian Empire, establishing a sovereign state, though it faced Bolshevik opposition and ultimately Bolshevik conquest, with a symbolic unification occurring the following year in 1919. This declaration marked a crucial step in the Ukrainian struggle for statehood, occurring during the Ukrainian Revolution, and is commemorated alongside the 1991 declaration as foundational moments for modern Ukraine.

    How about super powers and former super powers that still think they are super powers stop invading and occupying once and for all. How about former military brass who are bored and need an audience, be consistent and decry all invasions and occupations everywhere at any time versus trying to absurdly justify some whilst bemoaning others.

    Of course Ukraine cannot defeat Russia any more than Iraq or Afghanistan could have defeated America. As well, Russia cannot defeat Ukraine any more than America could have defeated Iraq and/or Afghanistan. The most Russia can do is fail Ukraine in perpetuity and in that process, Russia only hurts itself. The more resources Russia directs to the war on, and occupation of, Ukraine, the less resources available to strengthen and rebuild Russia’s infrastructure and social safety net.

    Finally, an endorsement from Tulsi Gabbard at this point is beyond embarrassing. This is the same Tulsi Gabbard who believes white Evangelical Trump supporting politicians in Georgia and Blacks conspired to steal the election from Donald Trump in 2020 and somehow Maduro was also part of this conspiracy. Tulsi, as you should know, ordered that raid in Georgia. She is an unequivocal nutter — a danger to herself and to all of us.

  8. spud

    here are the true rulers of the west. and they have almost complete say in how the west is run.

    the mis-adventures of imbeciles.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG3rLciXnnQ

    The Libertarian Town That Ruined Life for Everyone.
    108,769 views Feb 6, 2026
    A libertarian experiment promised freedom in rural New Hampshire—until taxes vanished, garbage piled up, crime rose, and bears moved in. The bizarre true story of Grafton’s Free Town collapse project.
    ——————-
    we can rename it, libertarians ruined life for everyone in the west.

  9. different clue

    ” This town is really going to the bears . . . “

  10. Mark Level

    “As we have seen, invasion and occupation don’t work. It didn’t work for the Soviet Union and it won’t work for Russia now”— You show utter ignorance and make strawman claims, as often.

    Your biggest misreprentation is that Russia is planning to “occupy” Ukraine. Nobody who has done the slightest amount of research without glaring prejudice (your biggest flaw) would buy that.

    Putin for years delayed or half-assed aid for the Donbass Russian-speaking populace that was suffering terrorist bombing by “their” Ukrainian government for not wanting to have their language, religious affiliation and culture crushed, as he wanted to ingratiate himself with the West. He tried to join NATO at one point but was of course rebuffed.

    By 2022 when li’l Cokehead Z-Man was publicly demanding nuclear weapons from the Biden Admin to annihilate Russians, the Putin administration realized they had to come to the aid of the Donbass Russians, the threat to Russia was existential.

    Russia, through statements by Lavrov, Putin, Maria Zakharova was 100% clear on their expectations and goals from early February of 2022. The goals were: liberate the majority Russian-speaking oblasts in the East and integrate them into “Novorossiya”. Secondly, defeat the Banderist ideology that made their puny neighbor’s leadership (that hypocrite Zelensky won as a “Peace” candidate, he briefly tried to be a Peace President, was threatened by the Azov goons, and started bombing Donbass again soon after.)

    Have you done ANY research? Or do you only gum the gruel that the Rand Corporation, Victoria Nuland and the other NeoCon War Criminals serve up to you? Are you aware that when your hero “Toria” ran the Maidan coup in 2014, the massive, strategic region known as Crimea fell to Russia without a single shot being fired? And a plebiscite held soon after verified that the 85% Russian populace their wanted to be Russian, not Ukrainian. They didn’t need to send in to die “1 million troops”, which you predicted the Russians would soon do in “Keev” when you first started your State Dept. trolling on this site. (Never happened. I’d put the odds that the Russians might want Keev at 49-51, if they do, it will certainly happen, and with nowhere near 7-figure casualties.)

    Russia has no interest in “occupying” the Western areas of Ukraine which are poor, backward and depopulated. When the SMO started, there were as many or more Ukrainians who went East to join Russia as those who went West further into Ukraine or crossed into Poland or other neighboring states to avoid being cannon-fodder among the young, Now the Ukrainians sheltering in Poland are deeply unpopular due to several obvious reasons: 1. Some raised Banderist flags at public events– The Banderists slaughtered mass #s of Poles during WW II, some were shipped off West to be slave laborers for the Germans, others who were Jewish were exterminated (recall Yaroslav Hunka, who got 2 standing ovations from the Z-Man (allegedly a “Jew”), Justin Trudeau and the entire Canadian Parliament a few years back. . . I guess you might be threatened by my mentioning that, as Justin said it should never be mentioned again as it is “Russian Propaganda.” (Proven true however.) Hunka, 98 years old at the time, wrote in a personal memoir that his time in a Himmler-formed Waffen SS Unit from 1942–45, which murdered at least 4,000 Polish Jews, were “the happiest years of my life.” Poland asked that Hunka be extradited from Canada to Poland for a War Crimes trial, it didn’t happen of course.

    2. The outcome of making Ukraine a NATO Proxy to attack Russia was in fact evident to many Ukrainians as early as 2022, as it was to all of us in “the reality-based community” and is seen today as nearly the entire Ukrainian energy has been taken down, in the last hours since the (fake) Trump-sponsored “energy cease fire.” The great Norman Finkelstein, one of the people that Jeffrey Epstein tried to cultivate as a “friend” and who told Epstein to fuck off, lives in an area of NYC near “little Odessa” and notes that nobody who lives there wants to go to Ukraine even to see family. (Women, maybe, but not men, they’d be grabbed off the street and thrown into a frontline unit with no training to die within a few days.)

    3. Speaking of Little Odessa, big Odessa has been under continuous Russian siege for a couple of weeks, nobody gets into the port unless the Russians allow it. The populace of Odessa remains overwhelmingly Russian culturally and linguistically, yes, the Russians will Occupy, permanently (or at least for the next few centuries) Odessa, no doubt. Would they bother with Lviv? (Formerly Polish Lvov.) No of course not. But many have suggested that the Poles, disgusted with the Ukrainians in their country might take Lvov back. (I didn’t mention earlier that the EU gave special subsidies to crappy Ukrainian grain so it was cheaper than Polish grain, they were forced to allow it thru Poland to go West, although many of their farmers came out and blocked its movement with tractors.)

    4. Oh here’s one more interesting data-point for you. Do you know how many poor women from the Baltics were trafficked out of their by Epstein and Associates starting in the 90s? Did you know that Ukrainian women started to be trafficked out after 2022 in large numbers? In 2018 when I broke up with my then-girlfriend, I tried a bit of online dating but it was not very productive. I still get tons of targeted stuff online, “Meet available Ukrainian women”. They have “traditional values” and are glad to be subservient. Blah, blah. Your support for Ukrainian Neo-Nazis kills lots of innocent men, and condemns many women to sexual exploitation. But you “care about” Ukrainians so much, huh? Just like the likes of Lindsey Graham and Oliver North. Lie down with dogs, and you will get up with fleas.

    As Rousseau observed, people who believe absurdities will commit atrocities. If you’re so big on Russia is Evil and Ukraine is noble and good, you should put some skin in the game and volunteer to take the place of all those folks in Little Odessa who won’t go near Ukraine. It’s too bad I never met you face to face, ‘coz I could challenge you to a bet, to put some money on the line about your brilliant “predictions.” I had a family member who lost a considerable amount of money to Ponzi schemes late in life. It’s sad (for him).

    The NAFO Faction online is no longer so big, people know they’ll just look stupid. The White Russian wealthy who left after the Revolution plotted and wish-casted they’d come back into power and regain their mansions and serfs for decades, just like the Idiot Florida upper caste like Li’l Narco Rubio fantasize they will get their big Fincas, taken away over 60 years ago, back in their hands. You trade in Imperial Nostalgia, which is a degraded commodity that fewer and fewer will even look at, much less buy.

  11. mago

    Good take down ML. Btw, there was no serious questioning of anyone’s masculinity. I was dicking around, inappropriately I confess. Just wanted to get back to you on that.

  12. Mark Level

    Mi hermano mago, of course I accept your apologia, you are always a good dude with no (or few) bad takes. I was not depreciado, a certain L&S was (bad takes 53% of the time, semi-coherent takes in the mid-40s. was. It’s his agency to call you out, or not, not mine.

    Que se vaya bien, mi primo mago.

  13. different clue

    Here is a video from the NextFuckingLevel subreddit of a new Chinese windpower technology system being tested and refined based on results into what could become a new mass-rollout windpower approach with few of the problems of the current huge-windspinner approach.

    ” China’s airborne megawatt class wind power system”
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1qzccz9/chinas_airborne_megawatt_class_wind_power_system/

    Hope-inspiring if as true as it looks.

  14. different clue

    ” Every Super Bowl Halftime Show For The Past 35 Years!!! ”

    Or at least little bits from each one.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1r0pbmo/every_super_bowl_halftime_show_for_the_past_35/

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