The difference is very clear. I don't consider it a hardship or an inconvenience. You do, and that's really okay - I can't tell people what they think is or isn't an imposition. I'm just trying to clarify it in my mind, and perhaps am a little dense - which certainly wouldn't be the worst thing ever thought about me 8^)

First post and you turned it into the USA's fault.

Yup, there's a reason Europe is falling behind. They have turned to victim mentality. How's that working out for ya'll?

Would I. prefer to live in Europe rather than the USA? Looking at Europe's history, I'd take the USA any day.

Seems it was a place where many innocent people died, with genocide occurring even in the 1990's.

You can bloviate on how Europe is superior to the USA in all respects, a place where all are welcome and happy.

Out of curiosity is your history banned or something? I'm terribly ashamed of some of the things the US has done, you all seem to have suppressed the horrors you have delivered to the world. Russia has good reason to hate Europe, and let us not forget about the Jews, the Roma, the gays, the blacks and all the other groups you killed in establishing a master race - and no, it was not only Germany, they had plenty of supporters in the countries they took over.

Couldn't happen again, though, eh? the 1990's were not that long ago, the tendencies have not gone away.

And before we get too much of a rageboner, all areas have dirty laundry. Just that altogether too many Europeans stilll act like they are the master race - we're told that every day as any topic gets turned Into a dish on the Assholes in the USA, in a few posts.

Frankly, that is a combination of whataboutism coupled with a deep inferiority complex that always comes out . A dead lock this post will be at -1 in a few minutes. Don't care if I gave the European ubermenchen booboo feelings.

The Devil will show up as a man of the cloth, and the traitor will wrap himself in the flag.

Good to see that Republicans have embraced the end of the free market and the ascendency of socialism.

Wow, looks like a lot of variability going on. I wonder if something political is afoot, Nola is home to a lot (most?) oil refineries. Sure as anything Nola is hella bigger than my area.

Here in PA, about a decade ago, we had a lot of trees come down in storms. That was nature doing needed trimming. So it was okay for a while. Then we've been getting ridiculous weather the last few years. The one in late April wasn't called a tornado, but a "derecho" Never heard of that before. But in my yard weather station, I got a gust of 149 mph. Haven't figured out if that was an anomaly, but looking at the neighborhood, it looked kinda like a tornado hit. A lot of trees snapped power lines down, and roof cave-ins.

Plugging things that use electricity into electrical outlets is something that is unbearably inconvenient? If that is your situation, I'm okay with it. You do you. I'm okay with it, but what I don't understand and probably never will is that everything else is apparently not a problem

Having to recharge a battery being inconvenient and to be avoided might be a deal breaker for some, but I suspect other than a talking point, few have that idea. It isn't any problem for me at all, so I won't worry about it. Just another thing that needs plugged in in order to use it, either in real time or charging batteries. Plugging tools into and out of outlets. Recharging my cordless tools. Charging my phone. Charging my laptop. Recharging my other Li and Lead acid batteries. And if I had an EV, it would just be the same thing. Plug it in and recharge it without a second thought. Just like everything else. YMMV.

You are lucky that you've never heard of it. I spent over a week without power just this year. I had a 2 kV line laying across my driveway, many trees were split in half and broke poles. Hella mess.

I have 240 and 120 volts outside the house, mostly for the Spa, but ifI need it for anything else, I just walk out and plug what I need in.

I dunno - many things I think are just part of life are an unforgivable show stopping inconvenience to others. All that said, when the outages occur, My life goes on just like it did before. Hot water, heat, Freezers. When the Electricity goes back on, My life goes on apace.

The middle of Pennsylvania. but at all the new Sheetz convenience stores, and many older ones - they have multiple charging stations. They have them in Black Moshannon State Park. Bald Eagle State Park, Burkholders grocery store in Millheim, (Burkholders also commits the sin of running their store mostly on Solar, which panels act as a cover for the parking lot. No need for an umbrella. Seven Mountains Campground has 2 chargers, Giant Markets in Bellefonte, Wise Markets in State College, Bellefonte Public Parking, several Sharepoints, and more coming in.

In irony, we're considered the heart of Appalachia, populated by hicks and rednecks who are living in the 1950s.

I've found that the number varies, from our 87 charging stations that are based on actual stations, and the no charging stations which is the number used by people who don't like EVs.

I have a friend who charges his in the driveway. It looks as "bad" as a plug for an emergency generator. Nothing drags on the ground no trip hazard, just a short length of cable. - he just back into the driveway, the connector is maybe three feet from the charging port on his car. Seriously it is as much a problem as deciding not to use emergency power at the house because that port on the house is just too much trouble.

Next reason to not drive EV's?

Interesting - here a number of the chargers are free to use.

Gasoline powered vehicles burn as well Last year we had a few houses in our area destroyed from gasoline fires.

Is some of that money going to road infrastructure maintenance? Here in the hinterlands, there needs to be a way to get money for that, since the ICE taxes on gas/diesel serve that function.

The buildout is simply something that takes time, and the speed and magnitude depend on how quickly EVs are bought and used.

Even in my little city, we have something like 87 charging stations. The growth in chargers is happening in step with the ownership.

Lightposts might be next, although we've been doing the charging "pillar" more. Some northern cities have had parking meter electrical outlets for decades - a different use - that being heaters for ICE engines which don't work well in midwinter temps. But they work just as well to charge an EV.