YC's dark side: How getting into YC might harm your startup

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Founder & General Partner at Recursive Ventures

Controversial take (at the risk of getting kicked out of future YC demo days): What if getting into Y Combinator actually made your outcome worse? I've invested in 6 YC companies since 2014. 5 out of the 6 were pre-YC or early in the program, one was post-demo day. This includes winners such as Deel and May Mobility. Here's what nobody tells you: Most of what accelerators provide, you can get for free: - Mentorship? You are going to find the best mentors through your network - Network? Warm intros through investors who actually take board seats - Demo day? Most deals come from direct outreach, not demo days - Validation? Having revenue is better validation than any batch The worst part? YC invests in 400+ companies per year. They don't have time to actually help you beyond the program. You're a lottery ticket in a portfolio. The 2-3 breakout companies subsidize the other 197. You're probably one of the 197. And worse. Because they only make money from the breakout companies they would rather optimize their outcomes by pushing everybody to $20m-$40m post money SAFEs to optimize for the winners... Even though it's the wrong valuation for you and can kill your company. Yes, getting over your skis on valuation can kill your company. And no, YC doesn't care because while your company is dead they make more money on the winners. Here's when accelerators make sense: - You're 22, first-time founder, need basics - You have zero network in Silicon Valley - You need the brand to unlock initial meetings Here's when they're a terrible deal: - You're a second-time founder (you don't need the basics) - You already have investor relationships - You're giving away 7% for what amounts to a 3-month crash course Here's my controversial recommendation: Skip the accelerator. Take that 7% and: - Hire an exceptional early employee - Keep more equity for the people actually building - Raise much more money for the same equity to fuel your business If you absolutely must do an accelerator, negotiate. In most incubators/accelerators the 7% isn't set in stone, especially if you are further along. Some accelerators take 5%, some do notes that convert later. Is 3 months of mentorship worth 7% of everything I'll build for the next decade? For most founders with any serious experience, the answer is no. But everyone's too afraid to say it. #YCombinator #Accelerators #StartupAdvice

Itamar Novick

Founder & General Partner at Recursive Ventures

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Gabriela Constantinescu

Co-founder & CPO @Chambr | Techstars

1mo

On top of the reasons why accelerators make sense, I would also add - if you're an immigrant founder and want to move to the US and build your startup here. An accelerator program with low acceptance rates strengthens the case for an O-1 visa. If you go through the program in the US and then return to your home country, it might not be as useful. On the point of having zero network in Silicon Valley, you need to be present in order to build it.

Adil Gwiazdowski

Co-founder @ shortlistd.io | Building the AI workforce for hiring.

4w

The biggest draw of YC is bookface. Instant MRR…

Rich Hacking

Founder & CEO @ Buffet | Marine Corps Vet | Building the Future of Social Connection

1mo

YES. Thank you for being the one to finally call it out. YC lost its pedigree the moment it tried to scale itself like a startup.

Alex Gatehouse

Co-Founder & CEO of Accelamos.ai | 3x Founder

1mo

You say raise much more money for the same equity but previously you mention how too high valuation kills the business. Which is it?

Joe Roos, CFA

Single Family Office / Private Equity / Venture Capital

1mo

I really appreciate this candor as I am pitched VC funds on a weekly basis whose entire thesis revolves around allocating exclusively to YC batches and while I understand the logic it does not negate the criticism posted above.

Startups are the product not their success. YC is a startup mill - pure and simple. They exist to funnel funds from investors into their own company through building startups. Then they take an extraordinary cut of the startups future success if it makes it. YC wins either way.

Vincent Granville

Chief AI Architect, Investor & Co-Founder

1mo

With 15+ years' operating in my environment, I have more experience than the YC mentors (raising VC money, self-funding, successful exit and so on, building the future of AI). There is nothing I could learn from YC. Also, I have more connections than these mentors have. Heck I even have more cash on hands personally, than I could get from YC. And spending 3 months attending BS classes when I could develop my product and sales? It makes no sense for us. YC may be attractive to inexperienced entrepreneurs. If success rate is low, it may not be because of YC, but because their cohorts are mostly inexperienced folks.

Koby Conrad 🌻

CEO & Founder @ Sunflower

4w

This is so wildly dumb & bad advice, you're telling on yourself 2x YC founder, took Rupa to $75M our batch is filled with alumni

Sachin Ramesh, MAPM

Founder & CEO at Volador Energy and Volador FlyTech | Aerospace & Energy Storage Specialist | Business Strategist | Entrepreneur

1mo

Very well said. No one wants to speak about this but it is indeed the reality. YC is no longer what it was 5 years ago.

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