Analysts
   @
 as represented by
Christian Dreyer, CFA
Group profile
currently 14 members, 3 meetings p.a.
 provide input into concepts &
 proposals
 assist in contacting users in order to
 facilitate outreach
 offer advice on practical implications
 of intended proposals
Members‘ backgrounds
 Countries       Industries

   Canada          Analyst Societies
   France          Consultants
   Japan           (Investment)
   Netherlands     Banking
   Spain           Rating Agencies
   Switzerland     Venture Capital
   UK
   US
Recent discussions
ARG‘s own structure, objectives etc
Convergence
Employee benefits / IAS 19
Financial Instruments: Impairment &
Hedging
Financial Statement Presentation
Liabilities / IAS 37
There is no such thing ...
There is no such thing ...
 divergent preferences
 due to different -
    objects of analysis
    analytical models
    conflicts / biases
 single common
 purpose: value
 pragmatic approach
 no respect for format
A stable platform?
             Research
             premium

                              efficiency of
                             cap. allocation


           Profitability
 Cost of
                          Accessibility
coverage
The Holy Grail
The Holy Grail
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The Holy Grail




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Required information
Required information
Required information
        Resources
                              Obligations
 Ability to generate
inflows of resources
                         Ability to convert
                        resources into cash

   Short- & long-term
          Risk
Book vs Market
     CPA’s                    CFA’s
    domain                   domain

                  Cut-
                  off
                  date
expected future          expected future
development of           development of
known business           future business
Resources
                              Obligations
 Ability to generate
inflows of resources
                         Ability to convert
                        resources into cash

   Short- & long-term
          Risk
Expectations rule!
        Resources
                              Obligations
 Ability to generate
inflows of resources
                         Ability to convert
                        resources into cash

   Short- & long-term
          Risk
Expectations rule!
        Resources
                              Obligations
 Ability to generate
inflows of resources
                         Ability to convert
                        resources into cash

   Short- & long-term
          Risk
Expectations rule!
        Resources
                              Obligations
 Ability to generate
inflows of resources
                         Ability to convert
                        resources into cash

   Short- & long-term
          Risk
Measuring value




The unit is currency - but with what attribute?
?
1€ + 1€ = 2€
Twelve
  Principles
to enable financial reporting
to more faithfully represent
     economic reality
Price discovery, ca. 1920


Valuation   Expec-              Valuation   Expec-
concepts    tations             concepts    tations
                      Bid Ask
   Fundamental                     Fundamental
   Information                     Information
Price discovery, ca. 2000
 Valuation   Expec-                  Valuation   Expec-
 concepts    tations    Bid Ask      concepts    tations




                       Fundamental
                       information
Price discovery, ca. 2015

   Expectations   Bid Ask   Expectations




        Valuation      Fundamental
        concepts       information
Dizzy, yet?

no interest in complexity, if -
  economic reality is represented
  valuation assumptions are disclosed
reverse feedback loop from users via
standard setters to preparers
Happy to
discuss!
 Chris Dreyer CFA
M +41 76 334 0800
christian@dreyer.ch
   http://iorp.eu

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ARG at Swissholdings

  • 1. Analysts @ as represented by Christian Dreyer, CFA
  • 2. Group profile currently 14 members, 3 meetings p.a. provide input into concepts & proposals assist in contacting users in order to facilitate outreach offer advice on practical implications of intended proposals
  • 3. Members‘ backgrounds Countries Industries Canada Analyst Societies France Consultants Japan (Investment) Netherlands Banking Spain Rating Agencies Switzerland Venture Capital UK US
  • 4. Recent discussions ARG‘s own structure, objectives etc Convergence Employee benefits / IAS 19 Financial Instruments: Impairment & Hedging Financial Statement Presentation Liabilities / IAS 37
  • 5. There is no such thing ...
  • 6. There is no such thing ... divergent preferences due to different - objects of analysis analytical models conflicts / biases single common purpose: value pragmatic approach no respect for format
  • 7. A stable platform? Research premium efficiency of cap. allocation Profitability Cost of Accessibility coverage
  • 10. y i li t l The Holy Grail ua n ab cr t ai Ac S us n t io n t io bu tri ea Dis Cr
  • 13. Required information Resources Obligations Ability to generate inflows of resources Ability to convert resources into cash Short- & long-term Risk
  • 14. Book vs Market CPA’s CFA’s domain domain Cut- off date expected future expected future development of development of known business future business
  • 15. Resources Obligations Ability to generate inflows of resources Ability to convert resources into cash Short- & long-term Risk
  • 16. Expectations rule! Resources Obligations Ability to generate inflows of resources Ability to convert resources into cash Short- & long-term Risk
  • 17. Expectations rule! Resources Obligations Ability to generate inflows of resources Ability to convert resources into cash Short- & long-term Risk
  • 18. Expectations rule! Resources Obligations Ability to generate inflows of resources Ability to convert resources into cash Short- & long-term Risk
  • 19. Measuring value The unit is currency - but with what attribute?
  • 20. ? 1€ + 1€ = 2€
  • 21. Twelve Principles to enable financial reporting to more faithfully represent economic reality
  • 22. Price discovery, ca. 1920 Valuation Expec- Valuation Expec- concepts tations concepts tations Bid Ask Fundamental Fundamental Information Information
  • 23. Price discovery, ca. 2000 Valuation Expec- Valuation Expec- concepts tations Bid Ask concepts tations Fundamental information
  • 24. Price discovery, ca. 2015 Expectations Bid Ask Expectations Valuation Fundamental concepts information
  • 25. Dizzy, yet? no interest in complexity, if - economic reality is represented valuation assumptions are disclosed reverse feedback loop from users via standard setters to preparers
  • 26. Happy to discuss! Chris Dreyer CFA M +41 76 334 0800 [email protected] http://iorp.eu