This document discusses integrating containers with OpenStack. It outlines some of the good aspects, bad aspects, and an ugly thought around this integration. On the good side, projects like Magnum, Zun, Kuryr, Kolla, and Fuxi aim to provide container orchestration, management, networking, and storage capabilities within OpenStack. However, integrating containers poses challenges as well. The ecosystem has diverse standards for clouds and containers, making integration complex with two layers of management. This can impact user quotas, charging, and other considerations.