Introduction to
Thucydides
D Posker-Hill
History Extension
Who was Thucydides?
Θουκυδίδης, Thoukydídēs

C. 460 – 400 BC

Athenian – Alimos/Halimos

“Thucydides the Athenian wrote the history of the
war fought between Athens and Sparta…”
Thuc., History of the Peloponnesian War, 1.1.
Features of his Work
Use of            Judgement
evidence


Analysis          “Set Speeches”

           First Hand
           Experience
Thematic
Focus?

•   Peloponnesian Wars
     •   431 to 404 BC

•   Athens vs Sparta
     •   Athenian strategos (general) blamed
         for military defeat and exiled.

•   War and Politics
     •   “And it may well be that my history will
         seem less easy to read because of
         the absence in it of a romantic
         element” Thuc., History of the
         Peloponnesian Wars, 1.22.17-19.
Use of Evidence
Claims of “scientific” approach
   Collating numerous sources
      “And with regard to my factual reporting of the
      events of the war I have made it a principle not to
      write down the first story that came my way, and not
      even to be guided by my own general impressions;
      either I was present myself at the events which I
      have described or else I heard of them from eye-
      witnesses whose reports I have checked with as
      much thoroughness as possible” Thuc., History of
      the Peloponnesian Wars, 1.22.9-14.
            The reality?
Judgments

   Evidence          Interpretation        History




Doesn’t merely report the event
   “But the real reason for the war is, in my
   opinion, most likely to be disguised by such an
   argument. What made war inevitable was the growth of
   Athenian power and the fear which this caused in
   Sparta.” Thuc., History of the Peloponnesian
   Wars, 1.23.
Analysis
Military              Exile and
Background            Connections



Historiography        Thuc., History
  i.e. dealing with   of the
  Homes               Peloponnesian
                      Wars, 1.10.18-
                      40.
Set Speeches
Sophist Background
  Are they to be trusted?
     “In this history I have made use of set speeches
     some of which were delivered just before and others
     during the war. I have found it difficult to remember
     the precise words used in the speeches which I
     listened to myself and my various informants have
     experienced the same difficulty; so my method has
     been, while keeping as closely as possible to the
     general sense of the words that were actually
     used, to make the speakers say what, in my
     opinion, was called for by each situation”
     Thuc., History of the Peloponnesian Wars, 1.22.1-8.
What are the
              purposes of
              Thucydides’
                history?


              Changing aims
              and purposes
 Aims and                        Changing
purposes of                    role of history
Thucydides
                  Purposes
                  of history
                  over time
How has history been
constructed and recorded
over time? Via Thucydides
 Forms of historical   Types of history in
 communication         Thucydides
    Written              Political
                         Economic
                         Military
                         Where do women fit?
How to study
             Thucydides…
       Context                                 Aims/purposes




Type of                                        Methodology/ies
history/research
focus


                   How their work has
                   changed from
                   previous/later work incl.
                   critics

Thucydides introduction

  • 1.
  • 2.
    Who was Thucydides? Θουκυδίδης,Thoukydídēs C. 460 – 400 BC Athenian – Alimos/Halimos “Thucydides the Athenian wrote the history of the war fought between Athens and Sparta…” Thuc., History of the Peloponnesian War, 1.1.
  • 3.
    Features of hisWork Use of Judgement evidence Analysis “Set Speeches” First Hand Experience
  • 4.
    Thematic Focus? • Peloponnesian Wars • 431 to 404 BC • Athens vs Sparta • Athenian strategos (general) blamed for military defeat and exiled. • War and Politics • “And it may well be that my history will seem less easy to read because of the absence in it of a romantic element” Thuc., History of the Peloponnesian Wars, 1.22.17-19.
  • 5.
    Use of Evidence Claimsof “scientific” approach Collating numerous sources “And with regard to my factual reporting of the events of the war I have made it a principle not to write down the first story that came my way, and not even to be guided by my own general impressions; either I was present myself at the events which I have described or else I heard of them from eye- witnesses whose reports I have checked with as much thoroughness as possible” Thuc., History of the Peloponnesian Wars, 1.22.9-14. The reality?
  • 6.
    Judgments Evidence Interpretation History Doesn’t merely report the event “But the real reason for the war is, in my opinion, most likely to be disguised by such an argument. What made war inevitable was the growth of Athenian power and the fear which this caused in Sparta.” Thuc., History of the Peloponnesian Wars, 1.23.
  • 7.
    Analysis Military Exile and Background Connections Historiography Thuc., History i.e. dealing with of the Homes Peloponnesian Wars, 1.10.18- 40.
  • 8.
    Set Speeches Sophist Background Are they to be trusted? “In this history I have made use of set speeches some of which were delivered just before and others during the war. I have found it difficult to remember the precise words used in the speeches which I listened to myself and my various informants have experienced the same difficulty; so my method has been, while keeping as closely as possible to the general sense of the words that were actually used, to make the speakers say what, in my opinion, was called for by each situation” Thuc., History of the Peloponnesian Wars, 1.22.1-8.
  • 9.
    What are the purposes of Thucydides’ history? Changing aims and purposes Aims and Changing purposes of role of history Thucydides Purposes of history over time
  • 10.
    How has historybeen constructed and recorded over time? Via Thucydides Forms of historical Types of history in communication Thucydides Written Political Economic Military Where do women fit?
  • 11.
    How to study Thucydides… Context Aims/purposes Type of Methodology/ies history/research focus How their work has changed from previous/later work incl. critics